Burzum on Candlelight?
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Freanan
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LOS MAGANDOS
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Freanan said:
why am i ignorant??
because i dont like really badly played and "recorded in a tin can" black metal..??
Lyle
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Teh Grimarse said:
okay filosofem is maybe okay but halsfalafel and the other thing are like awful dungeon and dragons versions of ashra temple or tangerine dream (tangerine dream turned into an awful dungeons and dragons version of themselves on the legend soundtrack)
@Las Mangalalados: No, because you seem to think Burzum is badly played and recorded in a tin can.
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Crimson Velvet said:
i dont listen to nazi's or fascists,
go look on the National Socialist Black metal sites - where he spews most of his racist shit
in case you didnt know -
"Europe is cursed by the rotten, rip-off, capitalist Jew-culture, a culture based on $ (plague and torment), miscegenation and Jewish world supremacy," Vikernes wrote in explaining his politics. "Burning churches is our duty."
"HEIL NORDLAND’S FÜHRER, HEIL VARG VIKERNES!"
‘The Wave to Appear’
While in prison, Vikernes ran a record company and became the self-proclaimed leader of both the Norwegian Heathen Front and "an international heathen brotherhood he calls Cymophane," according to a new book, Encyclopedia of White Power: A Sourcebook on the Radical Racist Right. In an interview with an E-zine a few years ago, Vikernes explained that Cymophane — an Anglicization of the Greek for "the wave to appear" — is also the name of his record label.
Today, Cymophane is a firm that sells the music of Vikernes’ Burzum — possibly the most popular NSBM group in the world — along with the writings of James Mason, a one-time American Nazi Party member who adulates the convicted murderer Charles Manson as a kind of second Hitler. (Until recently, Mason was also head of the "Vinland," or U.S., branch of the Heathen Front.) And it is a firm that has turned out to be a key component of Möbus’ trip to the United States.
Möbus was paroled in August 1998, after serving five years and four months of his sentence, and immediately entered active extreme right politics. He became head of the German branch of the Heathen Front. He took over a black metal label, Darker Than Black Records (DTB), and contributed to a compilation by another firm, hate Records — a label that belongs to the Saxonian branch of Hammerskin Nation, an extremely violent, international Skinhead group. And, like Vikernes, he spoke of wanting to get his music distributed in the United States.
And what the hell does that have to do with his music?
Also, that last part is completely off the mark. Burzum is not IN ANY WAY NSBM. You should really be more selective when it comes to what propoganda to believe.
Also, that last part is completely off the mark. Burzum is not IN ANY WAY NSBM. You should really be more selective when it comes to what propoganda to believe.
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Crimson Velvet said:
how is cold hard fact propaganda ??
anyway i've wasted enough time on Varg, enjoy having your eardrums scratched.
cheers.
LOS MAGANDOS
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Crimson Velvet said:I like how you completely avoided answering my question.
cheers.
what has it got to do with the music??? well he is playing and writing the music, and his racist messages are coming through that medium, so it has a lot to do with it.
brilliant racist interview of his right here by the way :- calling metal heads "white N******" and the southern Europeans :- this is hilarious -
".....South Europeans, but take a look at what race mixing has done to them! If it hadn't been for race mixing (and Christianity) Greece for instance would still be producing brilliant philosophers and a beautiful culture."
http://burzum.org/eng/library/interview01.shtml
Why don't you show me to a Burzum song where he spews this racist stuff? You see, I've been listening to Burzum for nearly fourteen years now, and I still haven't found any...
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Crimson Velvet said:
wow i guess the interview wasnt enough for you
look The crypto-fascist undertones to his lyrics are undeniably there, but you'd have to have a pretty thin skin to get offended by that alone - in the case of Burzum it's the underlying knowledge that this guy hangs out with the wrong crowd and has appauling beliefs, as per the interview above -
"Vikernes is tediously obsessed with the absurd concept of "racial purity" and has even gone so far as to state that looking into brown eyes is like "looking up an arsehole"."
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The Subjugator said:
im not Jewish, or Black or Asian, im British... but he doesnt just say bad things about jews does he now ?? anyway let him rot where he is.....
MasterOLightning
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You realize that his music was recorded well before he really got into all of that stuff, right? I doubt he felt the same way in 1992 as he did in 1998, or as he does in 2006. If you read his most recent interviews, which I'm assuming you have, judging from how well you seem to be able to quote them, you'd see that he just comes off as very conservative, but hardly the neo-nazi he was at one time. Most of what he said in the last one lacked any sort of controversy, if I remember correctly.
Listen, Las Magaladas, you are obviously not very inteligent, so I'll spell it out for you:
Varg is obviously racist. That is true. But the music Varg has written have always been kept seperate from this. He has never written a racist lyric. Get it? His musical project and political affinity have been kept seperate. Thus, you can enjoy his music without fear of being subtly influenced by racist undertones that convert you to a nazi, braincell by braincell.
I hope this clear enough for you.
Varg is obviously racist. That is true. But the music Varg has written have always been kept seperate from this. He has never written a racist lyric. Get it? His musical project and political affinity have been kept seperate. Thus, you can enjoy his music without fear of being subtly influenced by racist undertones that convert you to a nazi, braincell by braincell.
I hope this clear enough for you.
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MasterOLightning said:
its not hard to find his interviews on the net. I just found this one:-
Let me know if you still consider his views as just "conservative" using language like this
Q. - You once stated that "metal is my pals music", do you still believe this to be true?
Varg - Yes and no. I think the metal culture is my pals culture, in the sense that the traditional metal people look like, behave like and think like a bunch of "white my pals". It's (at least often) an extremely primitive, unintelligent and pointless subculture, like all rock 'n roll subcultures are. I too listened to metal music, but I never behaved like a my pals just because of that, and I don't understand what the point with this metal subculture is.
Q- What are your thoughts on the negroid race?
Varg - Well, let's not waste any time thinking about the Negro races.
http://www.metalcrypt.com/pages/interviewsframe.php?intid=170
hopefully that'll be my last word on that, if you want to be in denial please go ahead.
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Crimson Velvet said:Listen, Las Magaladas, you are obviously not very inteligent, so I'll spell it out for you:
Varg is obviously racist. That is true. But the music Varg has written have always been kept seperate from this. He has never written a racist lyric. Get it? His musical project and political affinity have been kept seperate. Thus, you can enjoy his music without fear of being subtly influenced by racist undertones that convert you to a nazi, braincell by braincell.
I hope this clear enough for you.
quoting Ernest Hemingway doesnt make you intelligent my good man.....
you dont know me or my iq level so stop making assumptions about me..........buying his music is still supporting him, thus his ideals UNDERSTAND ?????
