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I'll grant you that on point 2, but point 1 & 3 are irrefutable. Still, no point in arguing with fanboys...
but point 1 & 3 are irrefutable.
Maybe because it's one of the very albums in which their sound wasn't based on a fucking formula?
FACTS
@Valerie:
Maybe because it's one of the few albums in which they didn't focus all their energy into trying to sound as "proggy" and "intellectual" as possible? Maybe because it's one of the few albums in which they demonstrated some metallic energy and attitude, rather than trying to sound as "mature" and "intellectual" as possible? Maybe because it's one of the very albums in which their sound wasn't based on a fucking formula?
Do I really have to "prove" that Opeth strived more and mroe to sound "proggy" as the releases flew by? Have you even heard them?Also, can't you tell that "heavy-part-soft-part-heavy-part-etc-with-no-real-purpose-beyond-being-dynamic" has been a vital part of Opeth's trademark sound pretty much since "My Arms..."? The only deviation being "Damnation", but that's not really a point in their favour, as that was really just watered down versions of prior soft songs. Do you honestly need me to specify passages and notes for this to be comprehended or are you being obtuse for the sake of you favourite little band?
Do I really have to "prove" that Opeth strived more and mroe to sound "proggy" as the releases flew by? Have you even heard them?Also, can't you tell that "heavy-part-soft-part-heavy-part-etc-with-no-real-purpose-beyond-being-dynamic" has been a vital part of Opeth's trademark sound pretty much since "My Arms..."? The only deviation being "Damnation", but that's not really a point in their favour, as that was really just watered down versions of prior soft songs. Do you honestly need me to specify passages and notes for this to be comprehended or are you being obtuse for the sake of you favourite little band?
I disagree with most all of this. I like Orchid, but it's a formative and unstructured LP. Look at The Apostle In Triumph (a song I love); it's all over the fucking place. The album is definitely as "proggy" as anything they've ever done.
This is silly. "No purpose beyond being dynamic?" So being dynamic is a bad thing to shoot for, now?
2nd Point: Dynamics for dynamics sake are just tedious and ruins the flow of the song.
valerie, I think you would have better luck just being a groupie or something. Leave musical discussions to people who at least have an inkling of what the concept entails.
If that's a joke, it's pretty funny because no one could possibly be that retarded. That statement is something on par with the humorous ignorance of Dubya.
If it is not a joke, then you're the joke.
...how do you know about how honest it was? Can you read their minds?
...how do you know about how honest it was? Can you read their minds?
I'll use Blackwater Park for this purpose, as that's the last Opeth I listened to with any vigour at all.
I base that observation on the same thing that people who say that "Kill 'Em All" is a more honest expression than "Load" base their observation on. Song writing with more focus on conventional, proven methods in the disguise of progression, smoother production values, lyrics that has lost all resemblance to personal pertinence. And most of all, persona. I remember seeing them live in '97 or something, and they were just cool guys, really loving what they were doing. After the gig, they came out and had a few drinks, their eyes brimming with joy when someone complimented them. Now... well, most of you have been to Opeth gig at this point, I'll imagine. They're about as good guys as a few Norwegian black metal has-beens I could mention...![]()
@valerie: I am not going to defend having a fucking opinion to you. General Music Discussion. Yeah, opinions = bad.![]()
Opinions aren't the things I have issues with, it's the high and mighty attitude that you and others have, making it look like your opinions are fact and everyone who doesn't agree is wrong.
lyrics that has lost all resemblance to personal pertinence.