I like those records, I only hate LS.
Yes, Lunar Strain was fleshed out. How about putting effort into not saying dumb shit like that instead of trying to establish some dick-contest, and telling me I'm mad. I get the idea , dude, I even understood it the first time you made remarks about it, but it would be prime time to be as witty in the actual argument part as well. Why am I saying this? Because even the heart and soul of old (aka G-O-O-D, right?) In Flames, Jesper said that LS was shit and was made in a hurry. Here's the definition of
fleshed out:
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/flesh+out - now, did you read what I read, or did it say it means to throw together a bunch of songs in a very short time, while not even having any idea how exactly you'd like your band to sound.
You're really upset, don't you? Why don't you try to care about real things in life instead of putting all your efforts into some random band?
But, since you say that Jesper said that LS was shit, I'm sure you can provide prove of it (I will keep my own opinion about that album).
We could argue whether Whoracle or Colony was the first album where the guys wasn't just jamming stuff until it sounded OK or had parts which were actually great, but given the fact that Björn started playing guitar on Colony AND Daniel joined the band on Colony AND - if I'm correct - the first bigger overseas success was brought to IF by Colony... I don't know, to me, it doesn't seem like rocket-science to know which would be the earliest album IF would willingly play in its entirety.
Just three words: THE JESTER RACE.
Just one qute from thew wikipedia:
After releasing The Jester Race, the band then toured with Samael, Grip Inc. and Kreator.[4] The album was the band's second full-length album released following the more mainstream success of the 1995 EP, Subterranean. The Jester Race was recorded at Studio Fredman by Fredrik Nordström, who also contributed keyboards for the album.
This album ranked #79 on the website Metal Rules' list of 100 Greatest Metal Albums.[5] It is also considered a classic album of the Gothenburg style of metal,[6] along with At the Gates' Slaughter of the Soul and Dark Tranquillity's The Gallery,[7] exhibiting the dual guitar leads, growled vocals and acoustic sections typical of the genre.
As for Bjorn and Daniel, do you really think that bands have something like this is the right formation? No. Most bands change with the time and it has nothing to do with what you're talking about (such lame arguments).
And, Colony is not that great as an album. It is good, but probably the worst from the perios between TJR and Clayman.
I'm happy you at least agreed to me on that MOP was not Metallica's first record, I'm glad at least you are willing to accept that. TJR still does not hold as much value for IF as MOP does to Metallica.
And what do you know about that? The Jester Race is one of the cult melodeath albums. How can you know what TJR represents for the band? You don't know. You're just acting like a spoiled brat.
And finally, I have to hear about Iron Maiden. I don't give a damn about Bruce Dickinson and what he did.
Of course you don't. You don't want to hear something that goes against your arguments. Don't tell the "I have to hear about Iron Maiden" like if they're nothing. They're one of the most influential bands ever and probably the biggest Heavy Metal band (no, don't talk about Metallica. Metallica always counted with the help of the media, Iron Maiden didn't, and still they're selling tons of records, even of bad records, and touring and making an effort that neither Metallica nor shit Tredt Reznor will never achieve).
Seems like Bruce Dickinson has no problem singing someone else's song
Oh, so you think that in a real band, not some fake like NIN, al the musicians write all of the songs? Wellcome to the real world. In more than half of the songs Iron Maiden wrote Bruce Dickinson had nothing to do on their composition. Ask Kirk Hammet how many songs he created for Metallica. No, real musicians play a lot of songs writen by other members of the bands because bands are not a matter of egos, are a group of musicians who joined forces together.
Question: did Metallica gave the same treatment to Justice for All? Metallica (album)? Load, etc.? Because if they did not, then it seems like this topic is not as black and white as it seems.
No, and it is fun because, before the release of Load, Lars Ulrich said in an interview for the Spanish TV that everything they did before was false, I remember well because that was the day that I realised that Metallica was shit and decided not to spend my money on them anymore.
And I'd like to state once again that I have nothing against longing for such shows from IF or making custom setlists and wishing it to be done one day. My problem is someone kicks in the door and says "well, I don't like your music anymore, so change your name." or giving any band or performer shit for not being in love with every single records and songs they did. I for one am sure they will honor TJR in one way or another, but as I said, my bet is on including two songs (like Moonshield and Artifacts) into their 2016 setlist - and franky, seeing how TJR and Whoracle (+Behind Space) are completely neglected in recent years, even that would be something to be happy about.
No, you have a problem since you deny the others the chance to express themselves, and you decided to do this through insulting him.
I usually have no problem on discussing things, but with people like you I just loose my temper, and I'm still being polite.
