Can you NOT like someone and still respect them?
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Obyeybyeogone
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Duvall
Ia!
Definitely.
Take Hitler. The guy was a fucking prick. His views singlehandedly caused the death of millions. But he was a great orator. Not necessarily charismatic or attractive (that moustache is SOOO 1933), but he had a way with words that would make people turn against their own mother.
I respect that ability, though I despise the guy.
When I tell people that they get all catty on me for some reason. I'm not defending what he did, just pointing out a positive point that existed within him. (Note: positive, not good. The man was all about the evil.) Whenever I state that the Columbine assholes could have easily killed 900 people and that their "military grade training program" (Doom) didn't train them too well, people get that same look in their eyes. That look that says "you are a horrible person and I never knew all these years."
Well, lighten up.
Bah, enough pseudo-ranting for now.
Hitler sucks, and so did the marksmanship of those duster-wearing fuckheads.
Take Hitler. The guy was a fucking prick. His views singlehandedly caused the death of millions. But he was a great orator. Not necessarily charismatic or attractive (that moustache is SOOO 1933), but he had a way with words that would make people turn against their own mother.
I respect that ability, though I despise the guy.
When I tell people that they get all catty on me for some reason. I'm not defending what he did, just pointing out a positive point that existed within him. (Note: positive, not good. The man was all about the evil.) Whenever I state that the Columbine assholes could have easily killed 900 people and that their "military grade training program" (Doom) didn't train them too well, people get that same look in their eyes. That look that says "you are a horrible person and I never knew all these years."
Well, lighten up.
Bah, enough pseudo-ranting for now.
Hitler sucks, and so did the marksmanship of those duster-wearing fuckheads.
BillowOfZeal
and I looked up her skirt
Yeah, of course. A quick example: There are alot of jazz musicians that I don't really like, but I can still give them respect for being amazing musicians and playing what they love to play, it's just not my thing.
Heliologue
neologist
i don't know about madonna, but there are some musicians that i think have a definite talent, but just don't float my boat.
dave matthews band is a good example...
dave matthews band is a good example...
Lina
kickass elizabethan style
I'm torn.
I completely agree with Duvall, but...
I'm not the type to "respect your opinion" if I think you're wrong. Everyone says that little phrase to be all politically correct. To me, if I think a person's view is wrong, that also means I think they haven't done much research -- or they're just plain incompetent. Either way, I don't respect them. It's probably apparent by now, but I can count on one hand the number of people I've met whom I respect.
But I absolutely agree about finding respectable traits in despicable people -- even the terrorists to a degree. I got annoyed everytime someone referred to the attack as "cowardly." It certainly was not. Same with the Columbine kids. Same with Hitler.
I completely agree with Duvall, but...
I'm not the type to "respect your opinion" if I think you're wrong. Everyone says that little phrase to be all politically correct. To me, if I think a person's view is wrong, that also means I think they haven't done much research -- or they're just plain incompetent. Either way, I don't respect them. It's probably apparent by now, but I can count on one hand the number of people I've met whom I respect.
But I absolutely agree about finding respectable traits in despicable people -- even the terrorists to a degree. I got annoyed everytime someone referred to the attack as "cowardly." It certainly was not. Same with the Columbine kids. Same with Hitler.
Probably the truth is "yes" I can respect someone without liking that person. And even further "yes" i can respect someone even if I hate that person. I say "yes" though only insofar as they are possibilities in some remote sense.
The norm and practicaly reality for me, though, are the opposite. I find that my liking and respecting work in a very loyal and consistent unity. If I don't like you, chances are I don't respect you (or because I don't respect you). And if I don't respect you, I won't like you.
In me, in short, repsect and like behave as an exhausting holism. For instance, I neither respect nor like Hitler. I'm that stern.
The norm and practicaly reality for me, though, are the opposite. I find that my liking and respecting work in a very loyal and consistent unity. If I don't like you, chances are I don't respect you (or because I don't respect you). And if I don't respect you, I won't like you.
In me, in short, repsect and like behave as an exhausting holism. For instance, I neither respect nor like Hitler. I'm that stern.
i hate fred durst... but hes making a shitload of money!!! of course i respect him he knows what hes doing
i dont really like Hitler, but i respect what he done, not an easy thing to do. getting an army back, invading the rhine land etc. oh well, like with Scarface, when you get gready, everything falls down.
Russell
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No, I don't say that to be politically correct. I say it because I believe it is what we should do. If the world was full of people who didn't respect others views, have you any idea how shit it would? (if we hadn't all killed each other).
Many things have nothing to do with the amount of research or incompitence. I completely disagree with your above view, not because I don't think you know what ur talking about or u are incompitent, just as well are different people and bound to have different views on things. Things aren't as black and white as you seem to think they are...
, just noticed this, kinda makes my reply sound a bit copied, oh well i understand anyway, i think Richard Branson and Bill Gates are wankers, but when you have money, who cares?
Well, I can think of a lot of reason why I would respect someone and not like them. Hitler is a great example, Duvall. 
I guess Godisanathiest beat me to it by say what he did in a way. I respect peoples opinions. When someone doesn't respect mine namely after a discussion - we have different opinions and there's no changing it - that's when I'd loose respect for them. When people swear that my opinion is wrong. I can't stand that shit.
I'd respect someone for getting ahead in life, but I might not like them because of their "I'm better than you." attitude once they are there. I'd respect an athlete for their achievements but I might think they're a jerk.
"Your voice I cannot hear..."
I guess Godisanathiest beat me to it by say what he did in a way. I respect peoples opinions. When someone doesn't respect mine namely after a discussion - we have different opinions and there's no changing it - that's when I'd loose respect for them. When people swear that my opinion is wrong. I can't stand that shit. I'd respect someone for getting ahead in life, but I might not like them because of their "I'm better than you." attitude once they are there. I'd respect an athlete for their achievements but I might think they're a jerk.
"Your voice I cannot hear..."
MetalManCPA
Papa Opeth
I respect people who achieve great things - Bill Gates, Leo Iacocca, and generally anybody who climbs to the top of what they do - but I don't even know these people. If I found out they wiped others out along their ride to the top, then I'd lose respect for them.
I like certain people at work, but have no idea what they've really done in life, thus, nothing really to respect.
The only people I like AND respect are my parents, my wife, and my kids.
I like certain people at work, but have no idea what they've really done in life, thus, nothing really to respect.
The only people I like AND respect are my parents, my wife, and my kids.
Obyeybyeogone
New Metal Member
Metalman, I saw this thing on TNT I think about Bill Gates getting to the top. And here's how he got the idea for Windows. He worked for Steve Jobs at Macintosh, and then when Steve bought the idea for a mouse and graphical interface and implemented it into his operating system, Bill Gates copied the design, made his own Windows operating system that copied Jobs completely, and released it. And then I guess Windows 95 which really began his monopoly was his own idea, but he's still a thief.
I like and respect most of the people on this board by the way
I don't respect a lot of my friends, but I still like them. Two of them listen to rap and I always argue with them about it, but then I realize even if I win the argument, they don't deserve to listen to good music anyways. One of my friends actually likes Opeth, but he also said he likes N'Sync, all forms of country, rap, and numetal, so I suppose he'll like anything. And I don't respect my friends for being Christians, I have a very hard time respecting Christians, I have more respect for christians who actually choose the religion, rather than just stick with what they're parents jam down their throats, as is the case with my friends. My friend that likes all the different music is a smart person, and yet when I argue religion with him he seems stupid, It's like your brain functions on a lower level when you talk about your mythology. I can always get better points than them but it really doesn't matter. My more stupid friend has altered his religion just to make room for all its contradictions. He is saying there is a seperate afterlife for every religion, I assume this is just so god doesn't seem cruel for damning non-christians in his mind. So basically... I like my friends, but I DO NOT respect them.
I like and respect most of the people on this board by the way
I don't respect a lot of my friends, but I still like them. Two of them listen to rap and I always argue with them about it, but then I realize even if I win the argument, they don't deserve to listen to good music anyways. One of my friends actually likes Opeth, but he also said he likes N'Sync, all forms of country, rap, and numetal, so I suppose he'll like anything. And I don't respect my friends for being Christians, I have a very hard time respecting Christians, I have more respect for christians who actually choose the religion, rather than just stick with what they're parents jam down their throats, as is the case with my friends. My friend that likes all the different music is a smart person, and yet when I argue religion with him he seems stupid, It's like your brain functions on a lower level when you talk about your mythology. I can always get better points than them but it really doesn't matter. My more stupid friend has altered his religion just to make room for all its contradictions. He is saying there is a seperate afterlife for every religion, I assume this is just so god doesn't seem cruel for damning non-christians in his mind. So basically... I like my friends, but I DO NOT respect them.
