In terms of overall talent as a musician, Charlie no contest! Charlie's a world class songwriter, and I've read an interview with Scott, where he said Charlie's an even better guitarist than he or Dan! I can't say cause I've never heard Charlie play (other than Intro To Reality), but he's gotta be at least pretty good, to have come up with the riffs/songs that he has! Throw in his abilities as a drummer, and you're not gonna find a lot of guys with that much overall musical talent! As far as I know Dave's an amazing drummer. I'm a huge fan of both Charlie and Dave!