Christian Black Metal!

[Felix Neumann]

This is just a joke..but wouldn´t it be rather ironic, if it´d exist? Maybe it really exists? Clarifier me. I mean..christian death metal like Mortification, is pretty strange imo. What do you think about it generally?

Just my cup of nonsense fun coffee.

 

[Jevil]

I googled and it exists!!

I found a spanish wikipedia article about Unblack Metal (Christian Black Metal)
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unblack_metal


Crucifixes are not downwards!

 

[Felix Neumann]

Oh my fucking god!!!

 

[Jevil]

Oh my fucking god!!!

That is what they say in the lyrics but without "fucking"

 

[Felix Neumann]

That is contradictory as fuck! I don´t understand it, but I´m a tolerant person..holy jesus!

 

[Felix Neumann]

That is what they say in the lyrics but without "fucking"

Hahahahaha

 

[ATLA]

Extol is "unblack metal" they are fuckin sickkkk!

 

[SocialNumb]

Christian Black Metal! Fuck yeah!

Am I doing it right?

 

[paladin shredder]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unblack_metal

 

[Felix Neumann]

Actually, in a certain way christianity was the true evil in the middle ages, so why not playing überbrutal witchburning black metal?

 

[MEGA DAVE]

funny enough i was asked once to be in a christian black metal band... i laughed.

Black metal was created to destroy christianity... come on now people

and if you think about it starting a band like this you would have to have influences that were black metal... which is kinda like invoking satan to create music for god? love the hypocrisy...

 

[Executioner213]

Actually, in a certain way christianity was the true evil in the middle ages, so why not playing überbrutal witchburning black metal?

Without going into full on debate and slander, I don't think this ever phased out...just formed into different things that perpetuate it on the sly. I till think christianity is evil, as far as it pertains to organized religion. I think one can have christian ideals and not be evil, but christianity is definitely corrupt and malformed. All the "I'm going to heaven because I donated to the food bank and said my prayers...and you are going to hell because you listen to Deicide" shit is so tired and illogical. Whatever people need to get on through their day, I guess.

I believe I've also heard of bands doing this and calling themselves "white metal". Extol is a truly brutal band that, regardless of what they believe, should be given credit for their work!

 

[Jind]

I think one can have christian ideals and not be evil

Organized religion = bad
Personal spirituality = good
Upholding oneself to some form of integrity, inner strength, and ones moral code is good as well. Everyone should hold themselves to standards if they hope to judge others by the same said standards.

That's all I have on this subject.

 

[lolzgreg]

Extol is "unblack metal" they are fuckin sickkkk!

+777

 

[Felix Neumann]

I believe I've also heard of bands doing this and calling themselves "white metal". Extol is a truly brutal band that, regardless of what they believe, should be given credit for their work!

Absolutely! I agree. I´m sure, there a lot of christian bands, who has good musicians on board.

But this paradoxon "christian black metal" is more than weird in a certain way. This should get another name. Black Metal is leased for Satan, I thought

 

[spioraid]

Absolutely! I agree. I´m sure, there a lot of christian bands, who has good musicians on board.

But this paradoxon "christian black metal" is more than weird in a certain way. This should get another name. Black Metal is leased for Satan, I thought

Haha, pretty much. Oddly enough Underoath was Un-black metal originally. My how they have fallen.

 

[GeertSamuel]

I'm a christian. For me it's a real spiritual thing, it helps me lead my life in a way that I feel good about it, and with a purpose I feel good about. I've been raised christian, and my parents told me I needed to join to church until 14, after that I could make my own desicions. Which I did, I left church and christianity behind me. Then on the age of 21 I was curious about certain things, quietly went to some services, sat far in the back just observing. And at a certain moment, I feel I had my own personal spiritual experience. This leads my to be a christian. I hate the word "religion". There are some many idiot christians out there that destroy the reputation of christians like me.

Now I'm in a band that has 5 members in there, that are all christian. When we write lyrics, it's always about personal experiences, and since we lead a spiritual life, automatically you can expect that there CAN(!) be lyrics that contain a christian context. The same is the other way around, if a anti-christian writes lyrics from inside, you can't expect the person to leave his own thoughts and feeling about christianity on the background, simply because that is his believe or conviction.

I don't see the problem with christians making metal. There are deffinatelly some bands out there that show that Extol, Zao, Norma Jean..
I've played with Mortification about 2 years ago, they were a big deal in the 90's, because it was new back then..

Anyhow, this whole discussion about death, trash and whatever metal can't be christian I don't understand. I think the classification of the music is more dependant on the MUSIC then the LYRICS...but that's just me..

But offcourse Black metal was way more then just making music, it was more about being black metal then actually making black metal music. So I sort of understand that whole case...

For christians that enjoy metal it's also very difficult to get accepted by fellow christians. I've had people say to me that God hates my because I listen en enjoy this music, which is pretty heavy to take. And yes those people are idiots in my eyes.

 

[Ola Englund]

I'm a christian. For me it's a real spiritual thing, it helps me lead my life in a way that I feel good about it, and with a purpose I feel good about. I've been raised christian, and my parents told me I needed to join to church until 14, after that I could make my own desicions. Which I did, I left church and christianity behind me. Then on the age of 21 I was curious about certain things, quietly went to some services, sat far in the back just observing. And at a certain moment, I feel I had my own personal spiritual experience. This leads my to be a christian. I hate the word "religion". There are some many idiot christians out there that destroy the reputation of christians like me.

Now I'm in a band that has 5 members in there, that are all christian. When we write lyrics, it's always about personal experiences, and since we lead a spiritual life, automatically you can expect that there CAN(!) be lyrics that contain a christian context. The same is the other way around, if a anti-christian writes lyrics from inside, you can't expect the person to leave his own thoughts and feeling about christianity on the background, simply because that is his believe or conviction.

I don't see the problem with christians making metal. There are deffinatelly some bands out there that show that Extol, Zao, Norma Jean..
I've played with Mortification about 2 years ago, they were a big deal in the 90's, because it was new back then..

Anyhow, this whole discussion about death, trash and whatever metal can't be christian I don't understand. I think the classification of the music is more dependant on the MUSIC then the LYRICS...but that's just me..

But offcourse Black metal was way more then just making music, it was more about being black metal then actually making black metal music. So I sort of understand that whole case...

For christians that enjoy metal it's also very difficult to get accepted by fellow christians. I've had people say to me that God hates my because I listen en enjoy this music, which is pretty heavy to take. And yes those people are idiots in my eyes.

I hear ya. I couldn't care less if a song was about raping sheep or about jesus dying on the cross. Dream Theater are one of my fave bands and some of their lyrics are pretty religious.

Anyways I don't listen to lyrics, I just analyze the guitar.

 

[TheDriller]

Funeral Mist have an interesting angle on Black Metal,

the music is beautifully chaotic throughout most of their works,
coulped with lyrics that obsess over christianity, damnation, salvation, bigotry, torture, death and darkness.
in conjunction with the artwork, they explore the idea of christianity as the most heinous evil to ever walk the earth,
a wickedness so epic in scale as to inspire thier rabid devotion.

this is one particularly chilling song of theirs:
http://www.last.fm/music/Funeral+Mist/_/Blessed+Curse

Edit: some particularly spiteful lyrics:

Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body,
and cursed shall be the fruit of thy land,
Cursed shalt thou be when thou comest in,
and cursed shalt thou be when thou goest out.

And thy heaven that is over
thy head shall be brass,
and the earth that is under thee shall be iron.
The LORD shall make the rain of thy land powder and dust:
from heaven shall it come down upon thee,
until thou be destroyed.

 

[updog]

I don't particularily have a problem with christian lyrics in general, but when it's so obviously made to shove religion down people's throats then I think it's wrong. Bands like Becoming the Archetype aren't so bad, but if the lyrics are like "omg jesus omg lawd" and the lyrics can actually be heard in the music, it just makes me feel plain stupid listening to them.

It's different for me if the lyrics are anti-christian. I don't have anything against christians like Funky Animal but if a band sings about how satan is cool and I listen to it, it doesn't mean I think that way myself, but somehow it doesn't bug me as much.