'Convince me this band is good' challenge

[Bruticus]

someone convince me...
Malevolent Creation is more than a thrashy dm band with mediocre lingering song writing that doesn't matter from start to finish that has the (very) occasional sexy riff or groove.
Please.
As always, with an open mind. Give me an album and give me 2 or 3 highlight songs.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Bullet for my valentine is a good band



You can’t listen to that song and say they’re bad

Heathen's Rage did that riff better

 

[Allfader]

I mean all Summoning is extremely repetitive. but I love that track and it's one that got me into the band.

Stronghold is probably their most guitar driven album (except Lugburz).



Here's two tracks from Dol Guldur you could give a shot:





And a track from Minas Morgul that you might have heard the Caladan Brood cover of, this is way better though:



Failing that you could try something from their debut Lugburz, which is their most typically black metal album and has little in common with everything they recorded after it. It sounds more like early Abigor:

Lugburz is actually decent. It sounds alright and the style is good.

I don't have much trouble with repetitive material (after all, I'm a huge Burzum fan), but the songwriting must be really good to hold up and Summoning is way too amateurish to be taken seriously at this point.

I think Falkenbach is what Summoning should be in terms of sound.

 

[J.]

Falkenbach has like two great albums (the first two)....and then some others.

 

[Allfader]

Falkenbach has like two great albums (the first two)....and then some others.

I'm talking about production, more than anything else. Falkenbach doesn't sound too clean or polished and delivers that old atmosphere quite well. The Summoning guys should hire a drummer or get a better drum VST. Same for keyboards, which sound utterly laughable.

 

[EchoForever]

Bullet for my valentine is a good band

no

Summoning is simply garbage.

no

 

[The Ozzman]

someone convince me...
Malevolent Creation is more than a thrashy dm band with mediocre lingering song writing that doesn't matter from start to finish that has the (very) occasional sexy riff or groove.
Please.
As always, with an open mind. Give me an album and give me 2 or 3 highlight songs.

Pick any three songs from the first four albums

 

[Bruticus]

Pick any three songs from the first four albums

yer gon have to be a little more specific there partner. That post ain't gon make me start to like Malevolent Creation.

 

[EternalMetal]

Then don't listen to them.

 

[CiG]

Yeah nobody here gives a shit if you don't go ahead and listen to classic death metal.

 

[Bruticus]

Then don't listen to them.

Mmm nah, I'm on an online metal forum. So I come here for a purpose, other than occasional pure boredom. I need to gain sth tangible from this, and I have already a couple times. Much better to exchange with actual people than to read a cold review written by "connoisseurs" who are usually quite off in my long experience of reading them. I like ppl better than 'writers' and articles. Well of course there's always gotta be fkrs too like you for e.g.

I feel Malevolent have some good shit somewhere in store but every time I've tried it hasn't worked out for me. So this place is perfect to maybe find a way to appreciate them. I'm always welcoming of new bands and albums, metal or not, but they don't come easy and what does come easy is a couple of shit listens that sway you off a band.

 

[Allfader]

Mmm nah, I'm on an online metal forum. So I come here for a purpose, other than occasional pure boredom. I need to gain sth tangible from this, and I have already a couple times. Much better to exchange with actual people than to read a cold review written by "connoisseurs" who are usually quite off in my long experience of reading them. I like ppl better than 'writers' and articles. Well of course there's always gotta be fkrs too like you for e.g.

I feel Malevolent have some good shit somewhere in store but every time I've tried it hasn't worked out for me. So this place is perfect to maybe find a way to appreciate them. I'm always welcoming of new bands and albums, metal or not, but they don't come easy and what does come easy is a couple of shit listens that sway you off a band.

Listen Retribution. If you don't like that album, don't bother with the rest.

 

[arg]

 

[Bruticus]

Listen Retribution. If you don't like that album, don't bother with the rest.

Yeah. I'm going to digest this over the week, but so far it's better than anything I'd heard. They were always the blatantly 'mild' dm band for me. I'm guessing this is their best album then. Don't get me wrong a lot of the riffs are exactly that, thrashy dm filler. But it's got that Rob Barrett gone-to-war thrash vibe (best exploited in Cannibal Corpse imo) and that distinct Buffalo/Florida heaviness and groove. There's some serious fkng groove on this record of a quality I'd rarely heard from Malevolent. I'm hoping this gradually grows on me.

 

[CiG]

 

[PrincessHades]

Never gave them much thought, i actually like them now

First song was good, second song was pure art

Also thats one of the coolest album covers ive seen

 

[Bruticus]

Listen Retribution. If you don't like that album, don't bother with the rest.

My opinion: after listening to it a bunch of times over a good span, I'd say it's pretty good death metal, which is not easy to achieve in and of itself, however it's only that, i.e. it's not death metal that transcends its own genre to be more than just good generic material. It's groovy, well executed, mixes technicality and simple rhythm parts seamlessly, but it never reaches that next level song-writing.

This is a very unpopular opinion but with a band like CC you get that next level musical quality and whether you're a dmetaller per se or not is not a required condition, you could very well appreciate the music for what it is because it ticks the right boxes for any music, that is being catchy, full of memorable and distinct musical themes and phrases, and I find Barrett a lot more efficient and interesting with his riffs in Cannibal than I do Malevolent, for e.g. I haven't heard a song on Retribution of "Barbaric Bludgeonings's caliber which has that Barrett signature all over it (not completely fair comparison as he was much, much more mature by then):