To clear up any confusion, please post your definitions of:
1) Black Metal
2) Death Metal
All other metal definitions welcome!
1) Black Metal
2) Death Metal
All other metal definitions welcome!
Definitions of Black and Death Metal
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Oceanic Motion
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Phrozenspite
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Everyone probably has a definition thats a bit different from the next persons... its really best to be able to tell for yourself... Generally speaking the vocals and dynamics are what seperates the two genres for me...
Black Metal - the "atmosphere" of the music is very important for this genre, whether it be from the production of the guitar riffs or through added keyboard elements... the vocals are usually a mid-high range rasp. Though this isn't true for every black metal band(namely members of the NSBM movement) the lyrics are generally dark and anti-religious or satanic. I often find that black metal is more dynamic than Death metal because many bands often bring in elements from other genres into their sound.
Death Metal - Its either focused on Technicality or Brutality... the vocals are obviously the guttural growl and sometimes a shriek is utilized as well. The riffs differ from black metal in that they aren't there for atmosphere, but generally they're ultra-heavy and fairly technical... lyrically Death metal covers anti-christian and satanic topics as well as straight out gore.
Black Metal - the "atmosphere" of the music is very important for this genre, whether it be from the production of the guitar riffs or through added keyboard elements... the vocals are usually a mid-high range rasp. Though this isn't true for every black metal band(namely members of the NSBM movement) the lyrics are generally dark and anti-religious or satanic. I often find that black metal is more dynamic than Death metal because many bands often bring in elements from other genres into their sound.
Death Metal - Its either focused on Technicality or Brutality... the vocals are obviously the guttural growl and sometimes a shriek is utilized as well. The riffs differ from black metal in that they aren't there for atmosphere, but generally they're ultra-heavy and fairly technical... lyrically Death metal covers anti-christian and satanic topics as well as straight out gore.
Ageless said:thats long man, don't you know what the difference is already!?
Understand the dismay at this.
Many I talk to have a different idea. One label or seller will
put a band in a said category and the next place I look has
that same band in a different or elaborated category.
Black, to me, are those bands whose themes and lyrics are satanic or
whatever is the most unholy, wherever they live, religion, etc...
Death - themes and lyrics of death, destruction, war, murder, cannibalism, etc..
I've always tried to keep it simple.
nu-metal are basically the angry and depressed violent poser like bands in the US(not to offend, i like nu-metal but thats how i picture the scene)
rapmetal/rapcore is rapping and metal done for a long time, probably the biggest song ever was with anthrax and public enemy
theres blackmetal with a dark, and sometimes satanic flow in it, at least to my friends taste the likes of black metal makes them quiver. it's a very evil atmosphere. the lyrics are usually satanic, dark, or evil. a lot of screams and shrieks in it to
thrash metal is rare nowadays but back in the eighties there was a huge movement where bands played the fastest craziest stuff they could, you had no rules, except if you aren't the fastest people don't care for you. Thrash is all about speed and technical riffs, combined makes you the king
death metal is basically heavy furious and angry, when i first got my hands on nile and opeth albums it was so extreme i just couldn't believe it was done by humans, same goes for grindcore, most bands are put into either of those genres if their in the scene, IMO death metal is a more brutal version of thrash
power metal which in my opinion is like a metallica balled type of this
it has some stuff but most power metal bands aren't really all that great, they
theres many others over the years but explaining them all would take too much time and no one is interested in reading this anyways
^ from another thread like this i posted at another board
rapmetal/rapcore is rapping and metal done for a long time, probably the biggest song ever was with anthrax and public enemy
theres blackmetal with a dark, and sometimes satanic flow in it, at least to my friends taste the likes of black metal makes them quiver. it's a very evil atmosphere. the lyrics are usually satanic, dark, or evil. a lot of screams and shrieks in it to
thrash metal is rare nowadays but back in the eighties there was a huge movement where bands played the fastest craziest stuff they could, you had no rules, except if you aren't the fastest people don't care for you. Thrash is all about speed and technical riffs, combined makes you the king
death metal is basically heavy furious and angry, when i first got my hands on nile and opeth albums it was so extreme i just couldn't believe it was done by humans, same goes for grindcore, most bands are put into either of those genres if their in the scene, IMO death metal is a more brutal version of thrash
power metal which in my opinion is like a metallica balled type of this
it has some stuff but most power metal bands aren't really all that great, they
theres many others over the years but explaining them all would take too much time and no one is interested in reading this anyways
^ from another thread like this i posted at another board
Oceanic Motion
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They may not be correct descriptions of the genre's but it gives you an idea. But surely you can tell what is black metal and what is death metal?
Black: Darkthrone, Mayhem, Satyricon.
Death: Morbid Angel, Suffocation, Immolation.
They may not be correct descriptions of the genre's but it gives you an idea. But surely you can tell what is black metal and what is death metal?
Black: Darkthrone, Mayhem, Satyricon.
Death: Morbid Angel, Suffocation, Immolation.
Infernium
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to but in a shorter way...
Black Metal - more heavy, less melodic, singer sounds like a raped bear.
Death Metal - less heavy, more melodic, singer sounds less like a raped bear.
Black Metal - more heavy, less melodic, singer sounds like a raped bear.
Death Metal - less heavy, more melodic, singer sounds less like a raped bear.
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Ultimate_Symphony
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plfffffft
Madly in anger with you
At least this isn't as bad as the kid who just asked me what the difference is between Thrash metal and Death metal
Oceanic Motion
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Just download these examples (get their older material in almost every case), there are obvious differences.
Black: Darkthrone, Mayhem, Burzum, Beherit, Graveland
Death: Morbid Angel, Deicide, Suffocation, Necrophobic, At the Gates
Freanan
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The definitions i post here are only true if you only look at real Black or Death Metal, because there are mixtures of both styles as well as bands that look a bit like on of those genres but in fact are more like powermetal!
Death Metal:
Focused on rythm, brutality and technicity.
Guitars are used as very low and grinding rythm guitars + high and elaborate solos/leads.
The easyest way to recognize DM is the growling, but this is rather superficial and you might go wrong.
Black Metal:
Focused on Atmosphere and Melody.
There is usually no distinction between lead and rythm guitars there's just one or more guitars that play melodic riffs. Black Metal usually sounds really dirty ugly and nonmelodic on the one hand, but on the other hand it IS melodic, as you recognize, if you listen carefully or if you take away the screeching vocals and perhaps play the same stuff on violins.
Death Metal:
Focused on rythm, brutality and technicity.
Guitars are used as very low and grinding rythm guitars + high and elaborate solos/leads.
The easyest way to recognize DM is the growling, but this is rather superficial and you might go wrong.
Black Metal:
Focused on Atmosphere and Melody.
There is usually no distinction between lead and rythm guitars there's just one or more guitars that play melodic riffs. Black Metal usually sounds really dirty ugly and nonmelodic on the one hand, but on the other hand it IS melodic, as you recognize, if you listen carefully or if you take away the screeching vocals and perhaps play the same stuff on violins.
Adam90125
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Freanan said:
I would have thought that death metal concentrates more on melody (well, some forms anyway). I think there are too many subdivisions to accuralty catagorize any badn nowadays.
anonymousnick2001
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Well, compare Suffocation to Emperor.
Emperor are actually heavier, but they definitely have more melody.
I think black metal focuses more on sounding 'cold' and death metal on being 'br00tal'.
Death metal can have melody, but then it's melodic death. Duh.
And black metal without melody(usually without keyboards) is generally called blackened death.
Emperor are actually heavier, but they definitely have more melody.
I think black metal focuses more on sounding 'cold' and death metal on being 'br00tal'.
Death metal can have melody, but then it's melodic death. Duh.
And black metal without melody(usually without keyboards) is generally called blackened death.
Ultimate_Symphony
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That would be melodic death metal. Death metal or brutal death metal is generally less melodic than black metal.Adam90125 said:
Oceanic Motion
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anonymousnick2001 said:
A) Suffocation are waaaaaaaaaaaay heavier than Emperor!
2) Death Metal + Melody =/= Melo Death. Sure there's Melodeath but there's a lot of bands that are melodic that aren't Melodeath, for instance, Anata. they're quite Melodic, and yet are 100% Death Metal.
D) Black Metal without keyboards and with little melody is usually called Black Metal.
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