Dissection
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Staffan
Soelen gaaer bag aase ned
I think Dissection was about the most honest, brutalist shit I ever heard in my life. No need for make-up and buning crosses with Jesus ass-raping Mary, just good old fashioned METAL!!!
I'm gonna have to sort of, go ahead and disagree with you on this one ... I think that Orchid and Morningrise have a similar sound/vibe and Still Life and Blackwater Park have a similar sound/vibe ... My Arms, Your Hearse stands alone with the properties of the first and last two in some sort of hybrid ... Regardless, I like them all ... That's my two cents.
J.
Old Fart
Nonsense. You must not be a terribly analytical listener if you believe this. Firstly, Orchid and Morningrise as I remember were both written largely during the same time and production aside I can't see much difference at all in the songwriting. Yes, Morningrise has a bit more singing, but that's fairly irrelevant as neither album is particularly vocal-driven. Actually, how about you tell me how they AREN'T similar, vocals aside? I'm curious.
Second, the difference between Still Life and MAYH is much more significant than Morningrise and Orchid; Still Life introduced more experimental chord progressions, more coherent song structure and subtle jazz undertones, which are pretty much absent from MAYH. I'll agree that Blackwater Park isn't much of a departure, but I don't think it's a total rehash either thanks to Wilson's involvement.
Also, Orchid and Morningrise are the epitome of progressive metal? Heh, I'd like to know what your definition of prog metal is in that case.
J.
Old Fart
I seriously hope that was an attempt at irony, but if not, how are the structures on Still Life and BWP anything close to conventional? If anything, they're a massive improvement over the sloppy, random structures of Orchid and Morningrise. Most of the songs on Morningrise sound like a collage of riffs placed together with little sense of dynamics or tension.
I was never referring to the progression from Morningrise to MAYH. Read > comprehend > post.
J.
Old Fart
Well, like Penny said, the songs rely on more than one simple riff throughout the song. I guess the "random sloppy structures" just appeal to me more than the blandness of Still Life and BWP. It's just my opinion.
That's the thing; their song structures haven't become any more conventional, they've just become more intelligent and dynamic. And that hardly even pertains to my original post.
By the way, the riffs on Morningrise and Orchid are infinitely more simple than Still Life and BWP. Not your bag? That's fine, but simple they're not.
