Dissonant chords

Haha,
Anyways dissonant chords sound like ass I don't recommend using them for the sake of my ears(Unless it really fits the part of course).
The black metal example sounds dissonant because the minor chords aren't following a certain scale or key...blah blah. Giving it its' "brutal" sound.
woo!
 
WeAreInFlames said:
No it doesn't.

Music theory is useful.
You don't absolutely need it, but it'll help you not suck.
as for dissonance...try this:

A-----6
E-----2

or

A----7
E----2
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Yep, the more theory the more ideas. Even though one might not know theory in its technical spoken sense they know it in their ears. Someone like Vaughan learned alot of stuff and played with and around alot of people, so he knew theory but might not be able to explain what he was doing.

those are long stretches and the first one is the equivelent of a minor 3rd only inverted, dont know what that means though. If you move to say the A---2 D----6 is the same as E----4, A-----2, but obvioulsy you cant do this in the strings you indicated unless you have a 7string. check it out and you'll see what I mean. Its just a different octave of the one note.

However I'll tell you exactly what both together are like... RnR/blues, so they are one of the accidentals in the blues scale, that would be the E flat (passing tone 6th interval) with the E being part of the pentatonic blues scale

play a G flat power chord
E---- 2 (G flat)
A---- 4 (D flat)
give her two clonks and add
A---- 6 (E flat) one chop
A---- 7 (E)......one chop
A---- 6 (E flat) one chop

and you just did RnR or the blues such as Zeps intro to Bring it on Home... for example... only that is done down two frets on a open E, you'll see, check it out

Chromatics work well in metal too, its all in the groove and arrangement of intervals
 
that is a good idea though, I've never thought of trying them on their own in a different context... I feel a new riff coming on :headbang:
 
WeAreInFlames said:
The second one is uncomfortable, but I can do it. The first one you should have no trouble with.

Seriously, people, a 5-fret reach? Not a big deal.

And I'm 6'4 with big hands.
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bow chicca bow wow

here's some more....

(anystring)
--3--
--2--
or
--2--
--3--
and heres one of my favorites...
--7--
--3--
--5--
 
If you want dissonance, play inverted diad power chords, and pick and choose which intervals you want to play them in.

Or go to the whole tone scale and play augmented chords.
Diminished chords sound dissonant.

Playing open chords with heaps of distortion sounds pretty fucked up too.
 
Here is an explanation of the intervals of music for guitar, assuming we're using the lower 2 strings, E and A. (I'm using these two strings because they're tuned in Perfect 4ths, though this would also apply to the lower 4 strings since they're tuned in Perfect 4ths, as well.)

Playing on the 5th fret of the E string below an open A string will result in a unison.

Playing on the 4th fret of the E string with the open A string will give you a minor 2nd.

Playing on the 3rd fret of E the string with the open A string will give you a Major 2nd.

Playing on the 2nd fret of the E string with the open A string will give you a minor 3rd.

Playing on the 1st fret of the E string with the open A string will give you a Major third.

Playing with both strings open or barred will give you a Perfect 4th.

Playing the E string open with the A string fretted at the 1st fret will give you a tritone, also known as an augmented 4th or diminished 5th.

Playing the E string open with the A string fretted at the 2nd fret will give you a Perfect 5th.

Playing the E string open with the A string fretted at the 3rd fret will give you a minor 6th.

Playing the E string open with the A string fretted at the 4th fret will give you a Major 6th.

Playing the E string open with the A string fretted at the 5th fret will give you a minor 7th.

Playing the E string open with the A string fretted at the 6rd fret will give you a Major 7th.

Playing the E string open with the A string fretted at the 7th fret will give you an octave.

One of the things that you're required to learn in Theory classes is the way different intervals sound, either in unison or as separate intervals.

Also, many of these intervals will sound dissonant when used with distortion, especially most of the chords that involve the use of 2nds, 3rds, 6ths and 7ths.
 
sumairetsu said:
Here is an explanation of the intervals of music for guitar, assuming we're using the lower 2 strings, E and A. (I'm using these two strings because they're tuned in Perfect 4ths, though this would also apply to the lower 4 strings since they're tuned in Perfect 4ths, as well.)

Playing on the 5th fret of the E string below an open A string will result in a unison.

Playing on the 4th fret of the E string with the open A string will give you a minor 2nd.

Playing on the 3rd fret of E the string with the open A string will give you a Major 2nd.

Playing on the 2nd fret of the E string with the open A string will give you a minor 3rd.

Playing on the 1st fret of the E string with the open A string will give you a Major third.

Playing with both strings open or barred will give you a Perfect 4th.

Playing the E string open with the A string fretted at the 1st fret will give you a tritone, also known as an augmented 4th or diminished 5th.

Playing the E string open with the A string fretted at the 2nd fret will give you a Perfect 5th.

Playing the E string open with the A string fretted at the 3rd fret will give you a minor 6th.

Playing the E string open with the A string fretted at the 4th fret will give you a Major 6th.

Playing the E string open with the A string fretted at the 5th fret will give you a minor 7th.

Playing the E string open with the A string fretted at the 6rd fret will give you a Major 7th.

Playing the E string open with the A string fretted at the 7th fret will give you an octave.

One of the things that you're required to learn in Theory classes is the way different intervals sound, either in unison or as separate intervals.

Also, many of these intervals will sound dissonant when used with distortion, especially most of the chords that involve the use of 2nds, 3rds, 6ths and 7ths.
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That is a great way to learn the difference between a minor and major 3rd, etc. Good post.
 
The Ozzman said:
lol at a 5 fret reach being no problem.
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You're only going one fret beyond where your pinky is. If you can't do that maybe you should practice some stretches.

sumairetsu said:
Here is an explanation of the intervals of music for guitar, assuming we're using the lower 2 strings, E and A. (I'm using these two strings because they're tuned in Perfect 4ths, though this would also apply to the lower 4 strings since they're tuned in Perfect 4ths, as well.)

Playing on the 5th fret of the E string below an open A string will result in a unison.

Playing on the 4th fret of the E string with the open A string will give you a minor 2nd.

Playing on the 3rd fret of E the string with the open A string will give you a Major 2nd.

Playing on the 2nd fret of the E string with the open A string will give you a minor 3rd.

Playing on the 1st fret of the E string with the open A string will give you a Major third.

Playing with both strings open or barred will give you a Perfect 4th.

Playing the E string open with the A string fretted at the 1st fret will give you a tritone, also known as an augmented 4th or diminished 5th.

Playing the E string open with the A string fretted at the 2nd fret will give you a Perfect 5th.

Playing the E string open with the A string fretted at the 3rd fret will give you a minor 6th.

Playing the E string open with the A string fretted at the 4th fret will give you a Major 6th.

Playing the E string open with the A string fretted at the 5th fret will give you a minor 7th.

Playing the E string open with the A string fretted at the 6rd fret will give you a Major 7th.

Playing the E string open with the A string fretted at the 7th fret will give you an octave.

One of the things that you're required to learn in Theory classes is the way different intervals sound, either in unison or as separate intervals.

Also, many of these intervals will sound dissonant when used with distortion, especially most of the chords that involve the use of 2nds, 3rds, 6ths and 7ths.
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Good stuff. The DVD that comes with the Guitar Grimoire also explains this stuff. I would recommend that book to anyone, as it's fucking rad.
 
^lol at the last batch of posts, the 7th on two adjacent strings is a tuff stretch for the average guitar player

Intervals are just a simple matter of counting. Knowing the difference between major and minor power chords also comes from recognition of the full chord, just a visual recognition of the difference between Emaj and Em translated to any pair of strings helps. Amaj vs Am for the oddball Bstring. Same can be done with 7ths and 6ths. In the example of the two strings barred its an inverted 5th, 2nds become major, dom or minor 7ths or 9ths. 13ths are just screwed up and I havent evaluated them yet for simplification for metal but are great jazz chords.
 
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