Doubling mono guitar without phase issues
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Then try using different amps (and cabs) on each side. Be careful with the phase. You can also try adding a touch of chorus.
Fredrik-Ablaze
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who cares, he can still play along to the recording.. unless he is physically unavailable (lives in another country)
then i'd do something like here:
make the bass more dominant than the 2'nd guitar track
or maybe, mono the low end of the bass, but pan the grind of the bass to one side, and the guitar to the other
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cfh11
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in my experience no matter what you do it will never sound as good as double tracking. my suggestion is to forget everything else and just record it again. if you must do it that plugin above sounds cool or just add a simple delay of 20ms.
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Guys be serious, if you record a three piece act live in concert, there's no fucking way you're gonna have a second guitar post recorded!
egan.
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Tracking a second guitar would be a good idea but cmon it's a live recording.
I threw a quick mix of the feared song using only one guitar track doubled:
http://cl.ly/O30t/feared.mp3
Excuse the bad drum programming and some levels.
It doesn't sounds that much out of phase, does it?
I threw a quick mix of the feared song using only one guitar track doubled:
http://cl.ly/O30t/feared.mp3
Excuse the bad drum programming and some levels.
It doesn't sounds that much out of phase, does it?
RedDog
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I'm not a fan of studio magic doubled guitars.Personally I'd mix it dead center, but in a pinch you can Haas the thing and use two different amps (sometimes different cabs and mics work too if you don't have another amp) to get you closer to where you want to go.
Melodeath
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I'd demo brainworx stereoMaker and see if it helps/works for you. It offers an entirely phase coherent doubling, with no phase issues when you sum to mono. Pretty sweet.
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Use phase shift to change the waveform shape without changing the way it sounds on DI, then reamp, delay by 14-20ms.
I use phase Bug to do it. (http://www.betabugsaudio.com/plugs.php)
Phase shift makes the waveform look different => after distortion it will also sound a little different as if it was different DI. The result is not perfect and the two reamped takes will sound thinner than double take or haas effect (dalying one channel cca. 20ms) but if you combine it with haas it might give you less phase issues...
I use phase Bug to do it. (http://www.betabugsaudio.com/plugs.php)
Phase shift makes the waveform look different => after distortion it will also sound a little different as if it was different DI. The result is not perfect and the two reamped takes will sound thinner than double take or haas effect (dalying one channel cca. 20ms) but if you combine it with haas it might give you less phase issues...
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@FrankTheSmith I thought of this technique but as it's a live recording some riffs aren't played more than one time and the timing is a little bit of over the place, so I can't do that. That's a really interesting trick thought to use in the studio.
