Empeor - Prometheus

[Dark One]

Nightside, on the other hand, is a blitzkrieg. Raw, grim, blood, fire, and motherfucking death.

Case closed.

Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, I never implied Nightside was anything but blitzkrieg - Raw, grim, blood, fire and motherfucking death, I just thought that by commenting on its raw nature you were also making a commentary on its less than polished production values. Obviously I was mistaken there, but I STILL feel Anthems has the best songwriting and just as much atmosphere.

Um.... CASE CLOSED.

 

[JayKeeley]

I STILL feel Anthems has the best songwriting and just as much atmosphere.

You HONESTLY really believe that Anthems has "just as much atmosphere" as Nightside Eclipse? Wow, I wouldn't even put them in the same ballpark. Indeed, I would list several other BM albums with more atmosphere than Anthems. Right off the top of my head, Nokturnal Mortum's "NeChrist" and Negura Bunget's "Maistru Sfetnic".

I mean, sure, if songwriting is the comparison point, any argument can be made, but there is no way I would consider 'atmosphere' a worthy attribute for Anthems when you look at the BM genre as a whole, and not just between Emperor albums.

Damn, I'm just thinking of BM albums and I bet I could come up with 10 albums with more atmosphere than Anthems....

 

[Dark One]

Wow, I know you know your stuff JK, and believe me, I more than respect your opinion here, but I absolutely, positively disagree with it and wholeheartedly feel that Anthems has an undeniable cold and chilling atmosphere right to the bone.

 

[Dark One]

I'm 100% with JayKeeley here, for the record...

Well Duh........

 

[JayKeeley]

Wow, I know you know your stuff JK, and believe me, I more than respect your opinion here, but I absolutely, positively disagree

OK....

with it and wholeheartedly feel that Anthems has an undeniable cold and chilling atmosphere right to the bone.

....but do you at least agree that it's somewhat contrived?

 

[Dark One]

....but do you at least agree that it's somewhat contrived?

Hmmm.... in what context? Formulaic black metal or something of that nature?

 

[Ellestin]

The "Prometheus" recording sessions had Ihsahn and Samoth throwing some not so inspired songs in a riff-shredder engine and randomly sticking the bits together.
I guess they failed to come up with something half worth the shipping costs, but I can't say for sure since I gave the album a semi-dozen spins only.
Anyway from what I remember it certainly sounded extremely intricate. Maybe too complex for me indeed, as someone pointed. But nothing special. I'll stick to "Anthems..." as far as this band is concerned...

 

[J.]

So I just listened to all of Empeor's albums. Yes, Empeor.

Anthems is still the best, but not by much over Nightside. In fact, it probably depends on my mood or weather which one I'd prefer.

IX Equilibrium is actually a good album and if it had not had to follow two of black metal's titanic releases, it would have received better reviews. The first three songs are great. It takes a steady nosedive after that. Prometheus has some decent tracks, I guess. "Depraved" comes to mind.

 

[Ellestin]

I'm tempted to delete my faintly embarrassing above post (even though I still dislike PDFD)

 

[NAD]

I kinda like this album now [lol/omg/wtf].

 

[NAD]

I'm tempted to delete my faintly embarrassing above post (even though I still dislike PDFD)

15 years ago I regularly harangued Emperor, Primordial, Nokturnal Mortum, Iron Maiden, Rwake, Acid Bath, Judas Priest, and Amorphis. Today, those are some of my favoUrite bands.

Wrong then, wrong now, wrong forever.

 

[einride]

Emperor, Primordial, Nokturnal Mortum, Iron Maiden, Rwake, Acid Bath, Judas Priest, and Amorphis

those are like the archetypal bands of like 75% of heavy metal as a whole

well that's an exaggeration but

what did you like? pantera?

 

[NAD]

Hell yeah, Pantera rules, brother! [/redneck Uhmerican accent]

Back in 2005 I liked, in adjacent order to those:

Dissection, Drudkh, Finntroll, Slough Feg, Neurosis, [uhhh... nobody sounds like Acid Bath], Fight, and Katatonia. Not exactly identical comparisons, but close enough.

It is very strange that I have always loved Slough Feg but didn't get into Iron Maiden until much later. I don't often make sense, for starters. Yes and I also loved Fight but not Judas Priest... wtf?!

I think the main part was me just being a contrarian a-hole back then, so anything that was even REMOTELY influenced by Iron Maiden I would dismiss just out of spite. I was on a very anti-tradition pro-progress musical slant in 2005.

Then someone played me Piece of Mind when I was 30 and everything changed. That was the real turning point, I opened up to all kinds archetypal heavy metal from then on out. Which again doesn't make sense because I grew up on Slayer and Metallica and Sepultura and Megadeth and Black Sabbath as a '90s teenager...............so it's not like I didn't like the stereotypical stuff before the aughts.

JayKeeley once told me I was rejecting my metal self, but that it would come back later. Once again, he was right.

 

[einride]

holy shit my brain doesn't work

i read "15 years ago" and my brain was like ha ha 15 years that's long before nad started posting here, i wonder what manner of terrible music he liked in the FAR OFF RECESSES OF TIME THAT WAS 15 YEARS AGO

im old

 

[NAD]

Half your life has been spent logged on to Royal Carnage.

If this place gets deleted, we will die IRL like in the Matrix.