Europeans must be pissed...

Arg_Hamster said:
That´s what I belive too. And a week or two ago I saw a documentary about The Saudi-family and how they walk on a razors edge to keep the imams happy and still have support from the west.

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That's exactly the position the Royals are in. They placate the holy rollers, while simaltaneously embracinng all things Western. But this only applies to a small number of the Royal Family (which is approx 40,000 strong). The true RULING members of the family are highly Westernized (money can do that to you). Heck, Prince Bandar used to grace the sidelines of Cowboys games at Jerry Jone's request.


As a sidenote, has anyone noticed that America agreed to remove ALL of it's military forces from Saudi Arabia? This was a KEY objective to al Qaeda - the removal of all infidel forces from the Holy penninsula. Misson accomplised. Of course, I'm sure that the Royal family demanded this of the US....with the invasion of Iraq, we'd have another place to relocate them to.
That's why anyone who thinks we'll ever fully withdraw from Iraq is blind.
 
You say that without their help odds are we don't win, maybe but you know what with or without them we were going to fight anyway!! That's the type of courage this country was founded on!! And defend the french as much as you want....but you can't point to a more recent event other than that where france has been in any way helpful to the one nation that has helped them out more than ANY other.....That's sad. (I'm guessing you're french)

And like it or not but the past is just that....The Past!!!
We live in a "What have you done for me lately world"
And france hasn't done shit for anyone!!!!(except for Iraq!!!)

SoundMaster said:
The debt, as you say, may well be paid in full already. No doubt. But again, without their assistance in the Rev, odds are, we don't win.

Look, it's fine to hate the French now, or whatever, but let's at least acknowledge the facts of the past.
 
by the way, it has been predicted that in the next 10years the price of oil will go up to $150/barrel, because of China. The economy around the world is starting to shift because of China, the price of metal is rising very fast because of them and that is due to the fact that no limits have been set for them while everyone else has to stop to a certain line. If no one puts some regulations over China alot of countries are gona find themselves in deeper problems than they already are in.
 
T_man357 said:
And defend the french as much as you want....but you can't point to a more recent event other than that where france has been in any way helpful to the one nation that has helped them out more than ANY other.....That's sad. (I'm guessing you're french)

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Ah, what?!??!? I've completelly dissed & dismissed the French in my posts.

However, yet again, I'm forced to remind you that they were a major factor in the Rev War. American *may* have enentually dragged out the conflict long enough to force a settlement, but without a superior navy, it was unlikely. That's what the French did for us....supplied a Navy.

You say that the world is a "what have you done for me lately" world. Perhaps it is. But, that doesn't magically erase the deeds of the past.
At least TRY to be intellectually honest here.
 
CoverUinOil said:
by the way, it has been predicted that in the next 10years the price of oil will go up to $150/barrel, because of China. The economy around the world is starting to shift because of China, the price of metal is rising very fast because of them and that is due to the fact that no limits have been set for them while everyone else has to stop to a certain line. If no one puts some regulations over China alot of countries are gona find themselves in deeper problems than they already are in.

Yeah, the chinese buys everything in steel that we can sell to them. Mining companies and the steel industry are putting all eggs in one basket. I´d like to know what they have planned if the chinese economy backlashed.
 
WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!

The Revolutionary War(trying spelling the fucking word out, it's not that hard)
is over!! For far too LONG now....You're a fucking jackass!!!! Bring that war up one more fucking time along with how great and mighty the fucking french are and you might as well post your address because you're in serious need of a BEATING!! There's a hell of alot more to American history then that war.

There's no need to "remind" me of the hard on you have for the french's role in the Revolutionary War, I get it!!! I personally think you have your intellectually confused head up your ass!! and the lack of oxygen in making you brain dead, You should probably run back to that liberal link you posted here....I think they probably miss you.


SoundMaster said:
Ah, what?!??!? I've completelly dissed & dismissed the French in my posts.

However, yet again, I'm forced to remind you that they were a major factor in the Rev War. American *may* have enentually dragged out the conflict long enough to force a settlement, but without a superior navy, it was unlikely. That's what the French did for us....supplied a Navy.

You say that the world is a "what have you done for me lately" world. Perhaps it is. But, that doesn't magically erase the deeds of the past.
At least TRY to be intellectually honest here.
 
SoundMaster said:
Ah, what?!??!? I've completelly dissed & dismissed the French in my posts.

However, yet again, I'm forced to remind you that they were a major factor in the Rev War. American *may* have enentually dragged out the conflict long enough to force a settlement, but without a superior navy, it was unlikely. That's what the French did for us....supplied a Navy.

You say that the world is a "what have you done for me lately" world. Perhaps it is. But, that doesn't magically erase the deeds of the past.
At least TRY to be intellectually honest here.

Yes, THe French did help the U.S. but not out of the goodness of their hearts.
They were at war with the British and the American uprising was a way to stick it to them.
 
T_man357 said:
WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!

The Revolutionary War(trying spelling the fucking word out, it's not that hard)
is over!! For far too LONG now....You're a fucking jackass!!!! Bring that war up one more fucking time along with how great and mighty the fucking french are and you might as well post your address because you're in serious need of a BEATING!! There's a hell of alot more to American history then that war.

There's no need to "remind" me of the hard on you have for the french's role in the Revolutionary War, I get it!!! I personally think you have your intellectually confused head up your ass!! and the lack of oxygen in making you brain dead, You should probably run back to that liberal link you posted here....I think they probably miss you.


:wave:
Might I recommend a good shrink?

Anyway, why do I get the feeling that you're one of those ignoramuses that denies that the European settlers stole America from the natives?!? :wave:
 
Mxgonzo said:
Yes, THe French did help the U.S. but not out of the goodness of their hearts.
They were at war with the British and the American uprising was a way to stick it to them.

Of course not. No military action - by any nation - is ever conducted out of altruism. The French were hoping to stick it to their then sworn enemy, the Brits. And they did.
 
As a sidenote, has anyone noticed that America agreed to remove ALL of it's military forces from Saudi Arabia? This was a KEY objective to al Qaeda - the removal of all infidel forces from the Holy penninsula. Misson accomplised. Of course, I'm sure that the Royal family demanded this of the US

Of course they demanded it, they want to stay in power, and we obeyed because we need them, as much as the Royals need us. And we need all the allies we can get in the middle east, not many arab nations tolerate our presence due to our one-sided middle eastern foreign policy that favors Israel. When's the last time the US protested an action the Israelies undertook? When the American girl was killed? Not really. How about the USS Liberty? Kinda, but forgive and forget
 
DH, the forces aren't totally gone...

I was there in the late 90's right before all the shit started going sour...

I stayed in Khobar towers,,,right where the main one blew up...i can still see the pictures of the complete nakedness of the security every time i think about it.

From standing out at the bottom of that tower the highway was no farther than a couple of hundred yards away...all we got was a regular fence and guard shack...and some bags of sand and a couple of concrete barriers.

Saudi's wouldn't let us beef it up anymore totally annoying....then that June in 96 that son of a bitch drove up a gasoline laden tanker truck with TNT and you know the rest of the story, played exactly like the conversation i had with a sergant of mine...

sad really is
 
gaschamber said:
i just like bush cause he makes hippies and liberal assbags mad

Lol no shit! it is funny to see people get so pissed off. I love it. I especially like seeing the rest of the world freak out, like 95% of Americans give a fuck what they think.
 
Nightwing said:
try and get your sister off your dick long enough to remember Gulf War I - the 3rd biggest supplier of troops and aircraft?
FRANCE you stupid twat. :rolleyes:

That was a dumb thing to say. The US supplied the vast majority of all of that. That's like in the current war - Britain might be supplying the second most of anyone, fact remains they're about 1% of the total.