Fate?

[musicholic]

Originally posted by VultureCulture


i like that metaphor... life is a cd... hopefully mine is not just an EP though

I think my cd has a skip...

 

[Duvall]

I'm hoping it's a double-cd in a multi-disc changer set on repeat.

Sometimes it seems that things are just very laid out ahead of us. Sometimes things happen that by all reasonable logic shouldn't happen. This is when I think something's up. But generally, I'd like to think that my free will and mental power are truly in contol of my life, decisions and drives.

If I knew my fate, and was positive in its verity, then I suppose I'd have to accept it, but live life to its fullest. If I know I'm going to die in a plane crash, then I can drive like a maniac and go bungee jumping off bridges and get in gunfights and beat my head against a spike.. though I'm rarely THAT sure about anything.

Here's a question.. if you become cognizant of your fate (ie, the plane crash thing).. would fate do something cruel and kill you in another way? Right when you're having fun, thinking you can't possibly die, you get smucked by a transport or something. That'd kinda suck, I'd wager.

The film I made in film school involves a girl who denies her fate, and tries to return to life.. maybe one day I'll get it digitized so I can share it with the world. maybe.

 

[Belial]

I absolutely do not believe in fate. It is a rather silly concept IMHO, and it has no place in my mind.

Things happens. Things happen every day, every hour, minute, second. As I sit here typing this, an uncountable number of people are doing an uncountable number of things of varying importance. The world works every second of every day, and choices are made.

These actions are the source of all circumstances. Say you are looking for a job, and suddenly a great company is in need of new help. Would that be because of fate? No. It would be because some guy within the company laid off a one or a few employees for whatever reason, or something else happened. Whether you apply for this job or not is completely up to you, and your choice will set in motion a new set of circumstances that will effect you and others. Your actions add the the pool of global actions that effect the world.

Circumstances are directly contingent upon actions, either of you or of others. Time is a linear thing, yes, but that is no indication of a "fate" existing. You're actions are your own and always will be. Even if circumstances appear to be controlling you, you still have every choice.

Example: If someone tries to mug you and puts a gun to your head. The obvious choice would be to cooperate and hope he doesn't kill you, but you can still do just about anything: you can cooperate, or hit him, tell him to fuck off, or sing "mary had a little lamb", jerk off, or whatever. Even though any choice other than cooperation will most likely result in your death. Thus we take the choice where we don't die and don't see the rest of the choices. This goes for every other circumstance that seems to control our lives. The choices always exist, we just don't see them because of common sense.

Therefore I believe in complete free will. Nothing truly controls us. Circumstances guide your actions, but they don't control them.

 

[Opet]

Sometimes it seems like something is trying to happen...and I think "Is it fate?" I'm not going to sit around and "see where fate takes me" because what's the fun in that? But sometimes when things, strange things, happen more than expected, like say you spend you life with someone and you're so happy you met and you think about how you met and chances of it happening again and it's like...wow, the odds of us meeting. Like it would have never happened if the pieces didn't fall in to place so perfectly. Was it fate? Hm. Who knows? I don't.

So...there you have it.

 

[Malaclypse]

btw opet where have you been the last week?

 

[Opet]

I posted a thread (surrounded by death) that sort of sums it up...let's say I've been condoling people here at work...which is where my internet access is.