Favorite Italian bands...

[Seance]

my god

 

[batmura]

Garden Wall.

The most underrated prog band ever.

 

[all_sins_undone]

lol @ underrated prog

 

[Nectar of the Gods]

disarmonia mundi

 

[Profanity]

Graveworm are the only one I know.

 

[localloadie]

and from which ass did you pop out you pimple? didnt your mother warn you about making assumptions about people you dont know?

Well dipshit, it's a fairly safe assumption to say none of you have studied music beyond a fundamental level. If you did, you wouldn't dare use words like "overprogressive" or really even "heavy" (eventhough i don't think anyone did use that specifically) for that matter. It's just arbitrary nonsense people who don't know their heads from their assholes use to try to convince other idiots who don't know better that they know which way the bread is buttered.

But now dipshit, since you cannot possibly dispute anything I said there, I'll expect another one of your "witty" ad-hominems.

 

[Don Corleone]

ad-hominem?? haha

derbeder did the best interpretation for "overprogressive". i put the word in quotation marks to express that it's a word i coined (but actually is a word that gets thrown around very often).

yes, ephel duath is overprogressive because they do not know when to stop or put rests between their music. and after a few tracks, it gets boring. other people have voiced the same criticism, too, so it's pretty down-to-earth and only natural. what part of this cant you get? i have a feeling you, localoadie and nothinggod can be the same person since they show the same traits in being a dumbass.

 

[biggsy]

Does it really matter if people don't use exactly the correct word when everybody still knows what they're talking about anyway? The word was communicated very clearly, and I'm sure anybody without their head up their arse would have understood the meaning.

 

[Nothinggod]

This guy obviously went to Julliard with that expert analysis. All the more authoritive in his analysis since other people have voiced the same criticism. It must be a fact. Fuck having an opinion on anything though. If this guy says it is right it must be.

 

[localloadie]

ad-hominem?? haha

derbeder did the best interpretation for "overprogressive". i put the word in quotation marks to express that it's a word i coined (but actually is a word that gets thrown around very often).

yes, ephel duath is overprogressive because they do not know when to stop or put rests between their music. and after a few tracks, it gets boring. other people have voiced the same criticism, too, so it's pretty down-to-earth and only natural. what part of this cant you get? i have a feeling you, localoadie and nothinggod can be the same person since they show the same traits in being a dumbass.

put rests in? how the fuck is that progressive? or "overlyprogressive?"

 

[biggsy]

This guy obviously went to Julliard with that expert analysis. All the more authoritive in his analysis since other people have voiced the same criticism. It must be a fact. Fuck having an opinion on anything though. If this guy says it is right it must be.

Settle down sweetheart. I don't disagree with your opinion so much as the way that it's delivered. With arrogance and rudeness.

 

[i aint play this]

lmao @ stating your opinions coherently being equal to ''rhetorical catchphrases''...there was clearly no intention of persuasion on Derberer's post, just his thoughts...Nothingodd fails like a retard infinitely.

 

[Nothinggod]

lmao @ stating your opinions coherently being equal to ''rhetorical catchphrases''...there was clearly no intention of persuasion on Derberer's post, just his thoughts...Nothingodd fails like a retard infinitely.

Was that your response to my request for you to give me a definition of what "metal" is exclusive to all other genres?

 

[Nothinggod]

now ephel duath is overdoing certain things - there are too many "jazzy" breaks that come out of nowhere and seem to be there just for the purpose of showing that somehow the band can fit such a moment into the song. if the band had used the "progressive", non-metal based, elements in their compositions with more taste (perhaps less often, fitting better with the rest of the music etc.), they would be making better music. and clearly music that is not tastefully done for these reasons will be boring. "overprogressive" may not have been the best word to use here, but it does take some effort to really overlook what is meant.

"No evidence of persuasion"? Note the sections in bold. These are statements of unequivocal fact, not opinions. He is stating that they are definitively overdoing things. He can't know that, he isn't the judge of what is and isn't overdoing things musically beyond all doubt. He is also stating that they should do things with more taste. Whose taste? His? Once again he isn't the arbiter of what is and isn't tasteful, though he has definitly used launguage that implies that he is. He also says they would be making better music if they followed his apparent guidelines. Better music according to whom? What makes him think he or anyone else is the arbiter of what is better than what?

Also he alludes to terms like "jazzy" for example. Now if you are going to say it is "jazzy" you might want to have some understanding of what "jazz" is about before you go using the term in an authoritive statement of fact like he was.

Basically he he presenting himself as the expert of all of these things like he is beyond repraoch in his opinion. I sincerely doubt given the language he has used and other things he has said in other posts that he really has much concept of the musical analysis behind what this band are doing and could therefore have no idea what their goals and objectives are. Even someone who is highly educated in musical analysis would have to concede that their opinion is only subjective and that whether something has too many "jazzy breaks" is only their opinion. Which brings me to the final point. Bands and composers don't write music so that people like derberder can be satisfied that they have been able to put thier music into the "overly progressive" pile or not. They really don't care either way.

Finally though I think it's about time you stop trying to undermine me with your childish rants about how I am retarded or gay or whatever witless insults pop into your head at the time. It only serves to make you look stupid and ignorant yourself.

 

[illidurit]

I can't believe you idiots are still arguing with him, he's clearly right

 

[Rocky Raccoon]

Nothinggod makes me laugh so hard!
Why would anyone waste so much of their time posting such long-winded bullshit on an internet forum where no ones gives a flying fuck??
Genius

 

[Nothinggod]

Because I can.

 

[Don Corleone]

"No evidence of persuasion"? Note the sections in bold. These are stements of unequivocal fact, not opinions. He is stating that they are definitively overdoing things. He can't know that, he isn't the judge of what is and isn't overdoing things musically beyond all doubt. He is also stating that they should do things with more taste. Whose taste? His? Once again he isn't the arbiter of what is and isn't tasteful, though he has definitly used launguage that implies that he is. He also says they would be making better music if they followed his apparent guidelines. Better music according to whom? What makes him think he or anyone else is the arbiter of what is better than what?

Also he alludes to terms like "jazzy" for example. Now if you are going to say it is "jazzy" you might want to have some understanding of what "jazz" is about before you go using the term in an authoritive statement of fact like he was.

Basically he he presenting himself as the expert of all of these things like he is beyond repraoch in his opinion. I sincerely doubt given the language he has used and other things he has said in other posts that he really has much concept of the musical analysis behind what this band are doing and could therefore have no idea what their goals and objectives are. Even someone who is highly educated in musical analysis would have to concede that their opinion is only subjective and that whether something has too many "jazzy breaks" is only their opinion. Which brings me to the final point. Bands and composers don't write music so that people like derberder can be satisfied that they have been able to put thier music into the "overly progressive" pile or not. They really don't care either way.

Finally though I think it's about time you stop trying to undermine me with your childish rants about how I am retarded or gay or whatever witless insults pop into your head at the time. It only serves to make you look stupid and ignorant yourself.

have you ever actually read an album review in your entire life? or maybe an essay on anything at all? that is how criticism is printed on paper. one cannot go "in my opinion" before every sentence they write.

this will be my last response to you as i see you are lost. the reason for your being so arrogant is probably your antisocial personality disorder (APD). since you have written "sociopathic" under your name, you probably already know your diagnosis. get help, my friend

and one last thought: true knowledge and wisdom bring silence and modesty along. since you have none of the two, you obviously have none of the aforesaid. cheers

 

[Nothinggod]

I doubt you have ever had to turn in a term paper. If you did you would know that the comments I have written are exactly what any lecturer would write for the kind of response you and derberder constantly churn out in nice red pen all over the margins followed by a big fat red F at the end. Peope that write record reviews are the same type of opinionated failures. Reading reviews is a waste of time even more than it is expecting you to humbly admit that you are way out of your depth here with this pointless argument. I have made my point time and time again. Why don't you show me your credentials where you are qualified to diagnose any kind of medical condition I might have? I won't hold my breath expecting you are qualifed to give an opinion on anything. So much for modesty though

 

[localloadie]

have you ever actually read an album review in your entire life? or maybe an essay on anything at all? that is how criticism is printed on paper. one cannot go "in my opinion" before every sentence they write.

this will be my last response to you as i see you are lost. the reason for your being so arrogant is probably your antisocial personality disorder (APD). since you have written "sociopathic" under your name, you probably already know your diagnosis. get help, my friend

and one last thought: true knowledge and wisdom bring silence and modesty along. since you have none of the two, you obviously have none of the aforesaid. cheers

If that post wasn't riddled with irony.... Cheers.