favorite NWOBHM band?

best of the second wave?

  • Iron Maiden

    Votes: 17 40.5%
  • Judas Priest

    Votes: 2 4.8%
  • Motorhead

    Votes: 3 7.1%
  • Holocaust

    Votes: 2 4.8%
  • Def Leppard

    Votes: 2 4.8%
  • Saxon

    Votes: 1 2.4%
  • Legend

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Raven

    Votes: 1 2.4%
  • Samson

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Venom

    Votes: 4 9.5%
  • Diamond Head

    Votes: 3 7.1%
  • Angel Witch

    Votes: 3 7.1%
  • Satan/Pariah

    Votes: 1 2.4%
  • Girlschool

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Demon

    Votes: 1 2.4%
  • Witchfinder General

    Votes: 1 2.4%
  • Tygers of Pan Tang

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Preying Mantis

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Quartz

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Gaskin

    Votes: 1 2.4%

  • Total voters
    42
So many band I love on your list, but I'll sway from the most famous and go with Holocaust! :)
 
poundingmetal74 said:
Where's Tresspass or Jaguar?

Motorhead and Priest aren't considered part of the NWOBHM period.

I did not want to mention that but, of course, you are right.

Priest started in the early 70s and Motorhead started in 1975 I believe.
Both were well established when the NWOBHM took off in '79.
 
They may predate its popularity, but they definitely established the blueprint for the movement. Both of those bands had the innovative idea to mix metal with punk rock, which was the basis for the NWOBHM, and separated it from the metal bands of the late '60s and early '70s.
 
Raven!
One of the most skilled and underrated metal bands in general. Their first albums are perfect!

And then, Diamond Head, Demon, Holocaust, Tygers of Pan Tang, Satan, Angel Witch etc.

I don't say Iron Maiden and Saxon, because they are bands that gained most of their popularity after the NWOBHM thing. And of course Judas Priest and Motorhead cannot be comsidered as NWOBHM bands.
 
They may predate its popularity, but they definitely established the blueprint for the movement. Both of those bands had the innovative idea to mix metal with punk rock, which was the basis for the NWOBHM, and separated it from the metal bands of the late '60s and early '70s.

Establishing the blueprint for a movement is not the same as being part of that movement. Both Priest and Motorhead were well within the realms of mid 70s metal. Besides the abbreviation NWOBHM means *New Wave* of British Heavy Metal.

In '79/81 Priest and Motorhead were not seen as new bands. Iron Maiden, Angel Witch, Trespass, Weapon, Hollow Ground, Raven, and other were really new.

The background to this 'New Wave of' thing was that in the late 70 during the highpoint of the punk era Metal almost died out.

The NWOBHM was a true resurgence of the genre because there were a lot of new and very young bands bands coming out of the cellar. The drummer of Def Leppard was 14 when he recorded their first album.

To make a very long story short. Priest and Motorhead did influence the NWOBHM but they were not part of it. Both bands were well established and their members were seasoned musicians when the NWOBHM broke. The newer band were most of the time very young and beginning bands. Some of them never released an album or got a decent record deal. Weapon or a band like Tora Tora comes to mind. They were really part of a *New Wave* of bands.
 
Sweet Danger, it has to be Angel Witch. Since were talking who doesnt fit the bill, I don't really consider Venom NWOBHM either. They were British and operating in the time frame but not in the same style IMO it was the humble beginning of black metal.
 
Nor Judas Priest nor Motorhead are NWOBHM, plus several bands are missing. Nevertheless I went with Satan/Pariah for quality and constance during their discography.

Add Jaguar, Avenger, Warfare at least.
 
Establishing the blueprint for a movement is not the same as being part of that movement. Both Priest and Motorhead were well within the realms of mid 70s metal. Besides the abbreviation NWOBHM means *New Wave* of British Heavy Metal.

In '79/81 Priest and Motorhead were not seen as new bands. Iron Maiden, Angel Witch, Trespass, Weapon, Hollow Ground, Raven, and other were really new.

The background to this 'New Wave of' thing was that in the late 70 during the highpoint of the punk era Metal almost died out.

The NWOBHM was a true resurgence of the genre because there were a lot of new and very young bands bands coming out of the cellar. The drummer of Def Leppard was 14 when he recorded their first album.

To make a very long story short. Priest and Motorhead did influence the NWOBHM but they were not part of it. Both bands were well established and their members were seasoned musicians when the NWOBHM broke. The newer band were most of the time very young and beginning bands. Some of them never released an album or got a decent record deal. Weapon or a band like Tora Tora comes to mind. They were really part of a *New Wave* of bands.

I would agree with you, if you were right. ;)

Actually, you are fairly accurate. It wasn't just punk that killed off metal, at least not creatively. Led Zeppelin, Queen, and Rush drifted away from metal as the '70s wore on, while Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, and King Crimson imploded from their perpetual ego battles, and Black Sabbath had a drug-induced meltdown. I dunno exactly what happened to Uriah Heep, but they were never very consistent anyway. I believe Budgie's problems were centered around Burke Shelly becoming a religious nutjob, and Tony Bourge trying to turn the band into Genesis.

Judas Priest actually go back to 1967, though I'd argue they didn't become a metal band until they released Sad Wings of Destiny in '76. As near as I can figure it, the NWOBHM wasn't just an occasion of metal's popular resurgence, it also marked a stylistic shift. The rhythms of many bands were both accelerated and simplified. Many groups also adopted punk beats. The blues elements were largely stripped from the bands, and they adopted a DIY aesthetic.

On the issue of obscure NWOBHM bands left off this list, I'm really getting into Bleak House these days. Unfortunately they never released an album. They only have a couple of 7" singles to show for their efforts, released on Buzzard Records. None of this stuff has ever been put on CD.

You can listen to a couple of the songs here. It's sort of like Legend mixed with early Scorpions.

http://www.truemetal.org/battle/remasters1.html
 
Too fucking hard. Tank, Iron Maiden, Holöcaust, Judas Priest, Angel Witch, Satan, Venom, Demon, Defl Leppard etc etc I love them all.
 
Yeah Pagan Altar are orgasmic. Another band you forgot to put on there is Tank. Some people say that they take too much Motorhead influence but I believe they're better than Motorhead. I voted Witchfinder General, which would then be followed by Venom and perhaps Diamond Head.
 
I would agree with you, if you were right. ;)

Actually, you are fairly accurate. It wasn't just punk that killed off metal, at least not creatively. Led Zeppelin, Queen, and Rush drifted away from metal as the '70s wore on, while Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, and King Crimson imploded from their perpetual ego battles, and Black Sabbath had a drug-induced meltdown. I dunno exactly what happened to Uriah Heep, but they were never very consistent anyway. I believe Budgie's problems were centered around Burke Shelly becoming a religious nutjob, and Tony Bourge trying to turn the band into Genesis.

Judas Priest actually go back to 1967, though I'd argue they didn't become a metal band until they released Sad Wings of Destiny in '76. As near as I can figure it, the NWOBHM wasn't just an occasion of metal's popular resurgence, it also marked a stylistic shift. The rhythms of many bands were both accelerated and simplified. Many groups also adopted punk beats. The blues elements were largely stripped from the bands, and they adopted a DIY aesthetic.

On the issue of obscure NWOBHM bands left off this list, I'm really getting into Bleak House these days. Unfortunately they never released an album. They only have a couple of 7" singles to show for their efforts, released on Buzzard Records. None of this stuff has ever been put on CD.

You can listen to a couple of the songs here. It's sort of like Legend mixed with early Scorpions.

http://www.truemetal.org/battle/remasters1.html

OK, this is an interesting topic for me cause Ive always been confused with the NWOBHM thingy. First of all, is this a newer term or was it actually used back in the day ? Because I never heard the term heavy metal back in the 70's. Here in the US we all just called the old bands like old Zep, Purple, Heep and Sabbath "hard rock". Now its even funnier today as I hear the younger crowd try to dismiss bands like Maiden and Priest as 80's "hard rock ... not really metal" give me a break!

I mean where did AC/DC fall ? I know it was simplistic heavy blues but damn it was heavy and harsh.

Glad to see someone mention Heep. Heep and Atomic Rooster were early influences. They were right there in 1970/71 but all claim to fame goes to Sabbath. While Sabboth was a more solid direction band they were not alone. Heep and Rooster just plain blew it by going on tangents and drying out creatively.

The time line and which side of the pond thing also confuses me. Take here in the US ...... its like the "New Wave" of heavy music had nothing to do with US bands like Van Halen, Heart, early Pat Benetar to name a few.

Then take the definante heavy metal days in which Maiden & Priest reighn supreme. What about US bands like Savatage, Fates Warning and Queensryche that were right on top of the movement in 83/84 as well.

Its all so confusing here in the US for this old "hard rocker"

of the listed bands Ill have to take Maiden, you can still hear the Maiden school of music influence in many of todays metal bands.