Favorite Sneap Mix?

[Matt Smith]

What do you guys think is Andy's best work so far (sonically speaking, not in terms of best albums)? I'd have to say Exodus' "Tempo of the Damned". I just love the guitar sound, and the drums are incredible. Old-school thrash with unbelievable sonics.

 

[Hopkins-WitchfinderGeneral]

New Kreator... oops I wasn't meant to say that...

 

[Brett - K A L I S I A]

Testament "The Gathering"

 

[Forbiddenevil]

Testament "The Gathering", too.

 

[SickBoy]

What do you guys think is Andy's best work so far (sonically speaking, not in terms of best albums)? I'd have to say Exodus' "Tempo of the Damned". I just love the guitar sound, and the drums are incredible. Old-school thrash with unbelievable sonics.

It's great, but I like Nevermore's DHIADW better.
On Exodus' album the drums are waaay overtriggered and I just can't stand that. I'm not sure if Andy's credited for mixing it, but shame on whoever placed a one layer sample on the drums...

 

[James Murphy]

It's great, but I like Nevermore's DHIADW better.
On Exodus' album the drums are waaay overtriggered and I just can't stand that. I'm not sure if Andy's credited for mixing it, but shame on whoever placed a one layer sample on the drums...

the TOTD drums sound less "triggered" the the DHIADW drums IMO. Having said that i love both albums just the way they are thanks.

one layer samples are the only way to go for metal kicks... any time i've ever expirimented with multi-samples on kicks it has resulted in a very inconsistent low end...multisamples are great for snare and toms.. especially rolls and fills.

 

[commandante]

I third Testament - The Gathering...

 

[Andy Sneap]

rough translation = talking out your arse! ;o)
Though if thats what you think, fair enough, I just like to hear clarity all the time and I've found this pretty damn impossible when varying or not using samples.

 

[Nitronium Blood]

-The Gathering.

-A New Darkness Descends Upon Us.

-Wages Of Sin.

 

[Ermz]

The new Kreator actually just sounds like a mix to me... but oops, you're right, prolly not meant to say that. In my opinion it doesn't sound like it's been mastered... the volume is pretty low and on top of that there is some sort of rough sound to the tracks, almost like it was the mix that was... umm... shared with everyone before the release, however impossible that may be. I'll have to see whether I'm just delusional when I buy the actual CD!

 

[Ermz]

the TOTD drums sound less "triggered" the the DHIADW drums IMO. Having said that i love both albums just the way they are thanks.

one layer samples are the only way to go for metal kicks... any time i've ever expirimented with multi-samples on kicks it has resulted in a very inconsistent low end...multisamples are great for snare and toms.. especially rolls and fills.

Would you still use some sort of random, slight amplitude and pitch variations for the kicks?

 

[James Murphy]

Would you still use some sort of random, slight amplitude and pitch variations for the kicks?

not really.. just modify amplitude and eq a bit on fast kick sections.... but consistently throughout the entire section being modifed.. then back to normal on non double-kick parts.

having said that i just finished mixing a demo i recorded for Dino Cazares and Nick Barker's new project together and in the middle "clean guitar" section of one song i used some dynamics by adjusting and varying the velocity curves resulting in the kick playing some of it's lower dynamic mutli-sample layers... so never say never i guess.. just not usually.

 

[Ermz]

Hehe, well there are times when we are all forced to break certain habbits. It must be pretty hard to get a relatively 'organic' kick sound going when consistently using one sample and hardly varying it. I can't imagine how it wouldn't sound very triggered, unless of course that's the sound that's being aimed for.

 

[James Murphy]

well, you hear that sound every time you put on one of Andy's CD productions.. he uses one sample on kicks..no variance... except for the trick, which i learned from him, to change the amplitude and eq slitghtly on double kick sections.. it's still the same sample though.

 

[Andy Sneap]

Hey Moonlapse are you judging Kreator from MP3 or a ripped copy??

 

[Hopkins-WitchfinderGeneral]

The mp3s of the new Kreator that i have sound good and I don't think its even mastered.

Whens it coming out? Gotta get it, its killer.

 

[Ermz]

They were mp3s that were leaked a while ago on bittorrent. I recall you saying you couldn't get the client to work so you couldn't get them (oh the irony, eh). Well I'm not sure how possible this is, but it sounds like someone got a hold of the actual mixes, pre-mastering and leaked them. As I said, when I buy the CD, I'll see what the deal is, but the mp3s really sound unmastered to me.

 

[Andy Sneap]

oh if its mp3s I'm not in the slightest bit worried, amazing how well ipods have done.

 

[Hopkins-WitchfinderGeneral]

They were mp3s that were leaked a while ago on bittorrent. I recall you saying you couldn't get the client to work so you couldn't get them (oh the irony, eh). Well I'm not sure how possible this is, but it sounds like someone got a hold of the actual mixes, pre-mastering and leaked them. As I said, when I buy the CD, I'll see what the deal is, but the mp3s really sound unmastered to me.

They don't look mastered either, judging by a quick glance at the eq. The overall volume level is pretty quiet too...

Whats this about clients Andy?

 

[Ermz]