A little bulkier than that, with non-painted-on abs and decent legs for my size. We all start somewhere (for me, flexing didn't even change the size of my arms when I started), don't hate.
15% bodyfat isn't that high, true. And of course there are fatter guys that could outsprint the average skinny guy. I was the average skinny guy and I fucking sucked at any type of athletics. But someone who's 6ft, 170-180lbs at 8-10% bodyfat would outsprint the 210lb fatter rugby player any day of the week, assuming equal skill. And I'd argue that that's the best 'all round' physique.
I think to try and put it as simply as possible I guess, I think too many people want to be skinny instead of lean. Like dudes trying to fit into skinny jeans and dieting down to 145lbs just to see their abs while going for long distance runs for cardio, I dunno. I don't think that's something to strive for as far as physique goals go. Just a lot of misinformed young people out there I guess want to lift weights and look better and stuff but they are so concerned about staying <10% BF that they will never put on any muscle mass because they aren't eating enough and are doing too much low intensity cardio because they are afraid of fat. It's bad enough that girls have the mentality that they have to be skinny so when guys start thinking like that it's face palm central.
Being lean is admirable and impressive when you have built something worth showing off but I think so many 150lb kids at 8% bodyfat would look a hell of a lot better at 175 and 14%. I dunno, I guess I am just disappointed in the way being
skinny is almost glamourized at the moment. My opinion is that being skinny is something guys should be trying to fix just like being overweight. You can be lean without being skinny, and I personally think being strong is more important than being lean, so I would rather be strong before trying to drop to sub 10% BF levels, because people who are weak and under 10% BF don't look good, they just look skinny and weak which is what they are.
Anyways I'm not trying to insult or attack anyone here, the way people look without training and eating specifically to change it is of course largely genetic and environment based, everyone's body has it's own natural spot it wants to sit at. But again all I'm trying to really say is being skinny is still undesirable in my opinion just like being fat. That's not me saying I have some problem with skinny or fat people for being skinny or fat, that's ridiculous and I don't. I'm just saying purely from an aesthetic point of view, they are both as bad as each other in my opinion.
I don't even know what you're getting at in your post where you claim wanting abs is a confidence issue. First you claim its homo to work out for looks, and then base the whole 'I don't want abs anyway' argument as "I look better at 200lbs, higher bodyfat". :S? Maybe you've just got a big head (literally, not figuratively) - 'emorexia' dude seems to be more in proportion at less weight than you at 167lbs.
When I first got into weight training it was definitely because I wasn't happy with how I looked and was a confidence issue. After getting into it though I realized how much I actually enjoyed it from a competitive standpoint, even when just competing against my own numbers and that's when I really started to make my best progress and get excited about training. I think anyone who lifts weights has some passing interest in looking their best, and I still care about looking good, nobody wants to look like shit obviously, but I think taking it to the point where you are getting off on looking at yourself in the mirror is where it starts to get weird, haha... I don't need a mirror in my weight room to really enjoy what I'm doing in there if that makes sense.
And yeah maybe I do have a big head. Even L-XL flexfit hats are tight on me, haha...
Come to Canada and I'll teach you to squat 300lb Morgan! Trust me you'll think it's pretty sweet when you can do it
(I actually just watched Rocky 6, he's my fucking hero!)
