For All Clinton Lovers

[psykopain]

yet... any democrat is better than a republican

i cant agree.

they'r all the same......but different......they r all currupt, just as much as each other.....and if anyone disagrees, then u r blind.

 

[xenophobe]

Fuck this guy is living in fairyland.......America has the biggest deficit in history, right now.

Like I should really expect you to know how our economy is doing.

Clinton 'raped a few women'?? And he did so for America, did he? You idiot, have you ever heard of slander?

Apparently he has a history of being quite the "ladies man"...

Eileen Wellstone, 19-year-old English woman who said Clinton sexually assaulted her after she met him at a pub near the Oxford where the future President was a student in 1969. A retired State Department employee, who asked not to be identified, confirmed that he spoke with the family of the girl and filed a report with his superiors. Clinton admitted having sex with the girl, but claimed it was consensual. The victim's family declined to pursue the case;

In 1972, a 22-year-old woman told campus police at Yale University that she was sexually assaulted by Clinton, a law student at the college. No charges were filed, but retired campus policemen contacted by Capitol Hill Blue confirmed the incident. The woman, tracked down by Capitol Hill Blue last week, confirmed the incident, but declined to discuss it further and would not give permission to use her name;

In 1974, a female student at the University of Arkansas complained that then-law school instructor Bill Clinton tried to prevent her from leaving his office during a conference. She said he groped her and forced his hand inside her blouse. She complained to her faculty advisor who confronted Clinton, but Clinton claimed the student ''came on'' to him. The student left the school shortly after the incident. Reached at her home in Texas, the former student confirmed the incident, but declined to go on the record with her account. Several former students at the University have confirmed the incident in confidential interviews and said there were other reports of Clinton attempting to force himself on female students;

Broaddrick, a volunteer in Clinton's gubernatorial campaign, said he raped her in 1978. Mrs. Broaddrick suffered a bruised and torn lip, which she said she suffered when Clinton bit her during the rape;

From 1978-1980, during Clinton's first term as governor of Arkansas, state troopers assigned to protect the governor were aware of at least seven complaints from women who said Clinton forced, or attempted to force, himself on them sexually. One retired state trooper said in an interview that the common joke among those assigned to protect Clinton was "who's next?". One former state trooper said other troopers would often escort women to the governor's hotel room after political events, often more than one an evening;

Carolyn Moffet, a legal secretary in Little Rock in 1979, said she met then-governor Clinton at a political fundraiser and shortly thereafter received an invitation to meet the governor in his hotel room. "I was escorted there by a state trooper. When I went in, he was sitting on a couch, wearing only an undershirt. He pointed at his penis and told me to suck it. I told him I didn't even do that for my boyfriend and he got mad, grabbed my head and shoved it into his lap. I pulled away from him and ran out of the room."

Elizabeth Ward, the Miss Arkansas who won the Miss America crown in 1982, told friends she was forced by Clinton to have sex with him shortly after she won her state crown. Last year, Ward, who is now married with the last name of Gracen (from her first marriage), told an interviewer she did have sex with Clinton but said it was consensual. Close friends of Ward, however, say she still maintains privately that Clinton forced himself on her.

Paula Corbin, an Arkansas state worker, filed a sexual harassment case against Clinton after an encounter in a Little Rock hotel room where the then-governor exposed himself and demanded oral sex. Clinton settled the case with Jones recently with an $850,000 cash payment.

Sandra Allen James, a former Washington, DC, political fundraiser says Presidential candidate-to-be Clinton invited her to his hotel room during a political trip to the nation's capital in 1991, pinned her against the wall and stuck his hand up her dress. She says she screamed loud enough for the Arkansas State Trooper stationed outside the hotel suite to bang on the door and ask if everything was all right, at which point Clinton released her and she fled the room. When she reported the incident to her boss, he advised her to keep her mouth shut if she wanted to keep working. Miss James has since married and left Washington. Reached at her home last week, the former Miss James said she later learned that other women suffered the same fate at Clinton's hands when he was in Washington during his Presidential run.

Christy Zercher, a flight attendant on Clinton's leased campaign plane in 1992, says Presidential candidate Clinton exposed himself to her, grabbed her breasts and made explicit remarks about oral sex. A video shot on board the plane by ABC News shows an obviously inebriated Clinton with his hand between another young flight attendant's legs. Zercher said later in an interview that White House attorney Bruce Lindsey tried to pressure her into not going public about the assault.

Kathleen Willey, a White House volunteer, reported that Clinton grabbed her, fondled her breast and pressed her hand against his genitals during an Oval Office meeting in November, 1993. Willey, who told her story in a 60 Minutes interview, became a target of a White House-directed smear campaign after she went public.

Even if you only consider a few of the accusations against him, like Kathleen Willey and Juanita Broderic possibly true, wouldn't that be too many?

Yeah, you and most of the rest of the planet, punk.

Idiot? Punk? Your clever use of childish insults leaves me thinking that you're truly as stupid as you come across.

 

[Nightwing]

Well you did say that you didn't approve of Shrub, or "what he's been doing", and then you defend him like he's your pet puppy - I'd say that makes you both an idiot and a punk...........you want me to dig up a few hundred current articles about the state of your economy?

 

[Nightwing]

Here you go, bitch.

http://www.rense.com/general42/blbon.htm

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000087&sid=afjg7yjsXuqo&refer=top_world_news

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/22/n...00&en=221b26ead28a15a5&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20030818&s=lieberman

There's a few to start you off with, Mr. Economic recovery.

 

[Nightwing]

Plus.....http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4780.htm

http://www.newsinsider.org/

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...orld/20030919/wl_oneworld/4536684341063979941

Not that you'll probably read them, but the last one in particular is interesting for anyone thinking the US economy is somehow getting better for the average 'Joe Schmo'........enjoy.

 

[xenophobe]

Well you did say that you didn't approve of Shrub, or "what he's been doing", and then you defend him like he's your pet puppy - I'd say that makes you both an idiot and a punk...........you want me to dig up a few hundred current articles about the state of your economy?

Wow, you must really be brainless.

I work in retail at a small business, I see how our economy is doing 1st person, fool.

I don't approve of a LOT of what Bush has done, but that certainly doesn't make me dislike Clinton any less. Is that too adult a puzzle for you to figure out?

 

[Steve]

Here's what I was thinking of with the economy (mainly the national debt)

http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/ (I love this one even if it isn't accurate )

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/the_economy/411973.stm

http://www.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/05/01/clinton.debt/

Check the DC page for more links

 

[duckattack]

Wow, you must really be brainless.

I work in retail at a small business, I see how our economy is doing 1st person, fool.

I don't approve of a LOT of what Bush has done, but that certainly doesn't make me dislike Clinton any less. Is that too adult a puzzle for you to figure out?

xeno, I don't pretend to be terribly knowledgeable about economics, but like you, I work for a small business... I work as an office furniture installer, and as improbable as it may seem, it can give a pretty revealing look at the economy, especially in the long term. For one thing, I know that every office furniture company in Portland has 1/3 - 1/2 of their crews laid off. Customers that used to give us their business, no questions asked (based on the quality of our work and their past experiences with us), are now putting even the smallest jobs out for bid. And there just simply hasn't been as much work. Our customers range from small local businesses to big multinationals, as well as government contracts, so it's a pretty balanced view. I know you can't take one specialized service industry field and project it onto the entire economy, but I thought I'd give my two cents...

 

[Fuþorc]

Our economy isn't that bad off. Our problem is that everyone doesn't want to risk Investing.

Of course, Our economy could be that of Germany. Their Unemployment is like 12%.

 

[Scurvy]

Funny how the Left are so "Accepting and kind hearted" when all they can do is spew how evil people who don't fall into step and believe their illogical and ideological beliefs are.

Apologies for going slightly off topic but I've seen people use this line against liberal arguments all the time and I have to retort on a general level.

First of all, I must define my use of the term liberal because people use it to mean anything from communist to hippy nowadays and I am neither. However, since I like to think I'm fair-minded and tolerant, I'd probably fall under the real definition of liberal (on a moral level at least). OK, now for my retort....

To be liberal means to be tolerant and open minded to other's. I think we can agree on that. But, if I were to accept the actions of someone who was blatently intolerant, would I not be a hypocrite? Anyway, my personal view on life is that I will accept anyone for what they are and for what they think. I don't have to like it and I may argue with them but I won't try and force them to live like me.
However, when intolerant views become actions against someone else and effect people's lives, I cannot accept it as a correct way to act. There is no irony or hypocrisy in this at all. I'm just adhering to my "ideogical beliefs". I realise life isn't always this simple but that's the basics of it anyway.

Oh aye, I don't have a beard, I don't wear wooly sweaters (often), I don't wring my hands and my heart bleeds for fucking no one. Just thought I'd point that out.

Sorry to butt into the Clinton/Bush arguments (neither of whom I particularly like) but I couldn't let that pass.