found some bootlegs on youtube
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AngraRULES
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And it seems like this is the guy: http://www.youtube.com/user/OmegaSirusLaVey#p/u/7/XeYNFaaNInM
I think we should really create the ProgPower USA "Wall of Shame". I'd love to go take a picture of each and every person I see taking a video at the next ProgPower and then post it at the festival, Artmore, etc.
"WALL OF SHAME - BOOTLEGGERS AT PROGPOWER USA"
That will teach some of these morons.
Palabra de Dios
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I just don't see what the goddamned point of this is. Sound is shit. Video is shit. This is worthless.
dcowboys311
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Thank you for bringing this to our attention. There's no need for any negativity (we have so many positive efforts from the past few days to focus on!); however, if folks would like to simply post YouTube URLs within this thread, we will take care of it. 
~Jen
~Jen
A guy was bootlegging Labyrinth while standing in front of the rail, and security looked at him and did nothing for a while. Finally somebody asked him something, and escorted him out from the rail, but he wasn't kicked out the venue or anything.
Regor
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I'm kinda strange on the whole 'bootlegging' issue
1. I agree, that these videos are shitty, the audio is shitty, so who cares cuz they ain't worth a damn.
2. I respect Glenn & his festival extremely. So if his wishes are to not having bootlegging, then I'll fully support it. Hell, I even reported a bootlegger this year to Glenn, and one last year too.
3. But on the other hand, I think bootlegging can serve as 'free advertisement' for either a band, or the festival itself. People will see it, think "Damn, that looked like fun. I shoulda gone. I'm going next year for sure!"
1. I agree, that these videos are shitty, the audio is shitty, so who cares cuz they ain't worth a damn.
2. I respect Glenn & his festival extremely. So if his wishes are to not having bootlegging, then I'll fully support it. Hell, I even reported a bootlegger this year to Glenn, and one last year too.
3. But on the other hand, I think bootlegging can serve as 'free advertisement' for either a band, or the festival itself. People will see it, think "Damn, that looked like fun. I shoulda gone. I'm going next year for sure!"
AngraRULES
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Not when the quality is bad. It reflects poorly on the band, management, record label and even the event itself. Nobody wants their name associated with a shitty recording, regardless of whose fault it really is.
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Regor, I hear what you're saying. Currently, neither Glenn or I have the energy to comment/dispute. However, if you'd like to know more now, please do a search on Glenn's user name (Harvester for those unaware) + "bootleg" and you'll hopefully learn more surrounding our reasoning and policy. Thank you!
~Jen
However, if you'd like to know more now, please do a search on Glenn's user name (Harvester for those unaware) + "bootleg" and you'll hopefully learn more surrounding our reasoning and policy. Thank you!~Jen
Purveyor Of Evil
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I informed Glenn on Sat. night of someone bootlegging, but by the time Glenn got to him, he stopped. A few moments later he was at it again. Then I saw this person filming THERION, too. Glenn wasn't around then, so I went out into the lobby and got someone else. He saw the guy and told him no filming. But, as soon as security walked away, the bootlegging started again. He was a person of latino descent.
I don't understand the appeal to the people DOING the bootlegging either. You paid all this money to basically stare at your little cell phone or camcorder screen that you hold up in front of you. Doesn't that really take away from your own enjoyment of the show? Wouldn't you rather spend your time focusing on the real thing rather than putting an artificial filter in front of your eyes?
J-Dubya 777
It NEVER ends
Taping a band does take away from the visual experience. I agree with this.
Some people do it for trade bait, some do it for profit. Ever been to a "record convention"? There used to be a whole lot more than old vinyl and rare cds. Lots of people used to make huge $'s selling video tapes at $20 each. I never bootlegged a band in stealth mode, and always did it with permission. There are artists that don't mind, and some even encourage it for the free publicity. BUT the rules are still the rules...
Jen & Glenn - I'll keep an eye out for stuff at my usual haunts....
Diabolik
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I used to go to the old record shows on Hillside Holiday Inn and in the 90's it was all bootleg VHS shows. At that time it was the only way to see bands live. They would charge 20 to 25 bucks....sad people paid for lousy quality. I used to tape many band, my vids looked great with perfect sound and picture. I never sold a tape and I always gave each member of the band a copy of the show. I just traded with other traders....back then it was more underground and people had rules about selling vids to outsiders. this was back pre-internet. It is a great way for free advertising but if a band told me not to copy it for anyone I never did.
I cant figure out the rise of lousy vids on youtube with lousy sound and picture. Also...if there are signs saying and someone telling you....DO NOT DO IT....why would you bother. Is it really worth getting booted out. People are sneaky but in the end after all the work is it really worth it to just post some short vid on yourtube that will be forgotten about. I would rather just enjoy the show. To each thier own I guess.
Bootlegging is such a bad term too... People might not be doing it for profit, they just want to share it on youtube for free.... I like to watch youtube videos of concerts I went to, there is some good quality stuff out there.
The only problem I have with these recordings this is that it's against ProgPower rules. People shouldn't record if they are specifically told not to...
The only problem I have with these recordings this is that it's against ProgPower rules. People shouldn't record if they are specifically told not to...
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haha fortunately these all sound like ass. I laughed at the "your phone turned Sanctuary into dubstep" comment.
Youtube is generally great at pulling videos for terms of use violations. I think the best way to get these off is to just report them to Youtube. The bands and the fest "own" the rights to the performance recordings so it should be an easy sell to Youtube to have them take action.
Youtube is generally great at pulling videos for terms of use violations. I think the best way to get these off is to just report them to Youtube. The bands and the fest "own" the rights to the performance recordings so it should be an easy sell to Youtube to have them take action.
The Ihsahn one actually sounds good, I wish I was there to see that. I love watching live videos on youtube all the time, but it isn't cool to not follow the rules.
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