Gamers, what are your decisions?

So many console gamers, so little time...

I officially declare that playing shooters on anything but a keyboard and mouse is like fucking with your pants zipped.

Jeff
+1. And all my friends are drifting away from PC these days. :confused:

Guess it's too much of a hassle to keep up with the tech.
 
Hmmm okay..keyboard and mouse is better. But some first person shooters working well with controller..like cod4 or halo3. You can relax on the couch while playing in front of a huge TV. That´s cool:)
 
Hmmm okay..keyboard and mouse is better. But some first person shooters working well with controller..like cod4 or halo3. You can relax on the couch while playing in front of a huge TV. That´s cool:)

True, but PCs also have Mods. Both have there ups and downs but usually the PC versions of multiplatform games are superior.
 
You can relax on the couch while playing in front of a huge TV. That´s cool:)

YES YES YES YES YES - reason numero uno why I prefer console gaming (price being a close second). I'm totally used to FPS games with a controller, and it's really no problem - and furthermore, besides the aiming mechanic, I actually prefer the button access on a controller over finding the button you need in a sea of identical keys on a keyboard.
 
Both playing has benefits..I don´t think, that someone is a pussy, because he prefers console:) Moreover there are possibilitis for the ps3 to use mouse and keyboard. Far Cry 2 or Gears of war on a huge 114´ plasma or lcd..come on. That´s an absolute great experience!!
 
Hmmm okay..keyboard and mouse is better. But some first person shooters working well with controller..like cod4 or halo3. You can relax on the couch while playing in front of a huge TV. That´s cool:)

Because you can't have a PC hooked up to a TV, and there aren't any PC controllers made to substitute for console controllers or anything like that...

I share the exact same feeling. And I also like how the games for consoles run the way they are suposed to run. I mean, software developed and optimized to run on specific hardware.

It's not really that it's optimized for the hardware so much as dumbed down as much as they can get away with. And if you really want to have software optimized to run on your hardware, compile your own games from source - better performance *and* supporting open source software, fuckers.

Jeff
 
Because you can't have a PC hooked up to a TV, and there aren't any PC controllers made to substitute for console controllers or anything like that...

So why play on a PC at all, then?

It's not really that it's optimized for the hardware so much as dumbed down as much as they can get away with.

Not true - check this out. As the years pass, eventually yes, PC games will look better than console games, but christ what an investment to get to that point!
 
Well they have the potential to, yes, but look at that link, and how close they are until you get into dream machine territory
 
So why play on a PC at all, then?

Better sarcasm support - XBox 360 drivers are buggy with anything past 'your momma' jokes and the Wii calls your mommy and tells her you've been a bad boy.

Not true - check this out. As the years pass, eventually yes, PC games will look better than console games, but christ what an investment to get to that point!

I actually built a system with specs that run Bioshock smoothly with everything that can be maxed (at least on XP, because Vista is even more failtastic) last summer for around $600. Whoops. And they've looked better for quite some time - keep in mind you console kids have been running at 320x240 while we were frowning on resolutions sixteen times that fine.

Jeff
 
Better sarcasm support - XBox 360 drivers are buggy with anything past 'your momma' jokes and the Wii calls your mommy and tells her you've been a bad boy.

I don't get it...

I actually built a system with specs that run Bioshock smoothly with everything that can be maxed (at least on XP, because Vista is even more failtastic) last summer for around $600. Whoops. And they've looked better for quite some time - keep in mind you console kids have been running at 320x240 while we were frowning on resolutions sixteen times that fine.

Jeff

$600? Damn, that is cheap (though the "whoops" wasn't necessary). However, even if PC games have always been higher-res, I remember when Final Fantasy X and especially Metal Gear Solid 2 came out in 2001, no PC game could even come ANYWHERE close to the animation smoothness and texture detail of those games, even if it was lower-res. So there are always exceptions, but more importantly, I'll stick with what makes me happy!
 
I don't get it...
He was being sarcastic. You can hook up your PC to your TV, use xbox 360 controllers just as easily as you can with a 360 or PS3, all the while chilling out on your couch. And in the end, the PC is always going to have more power than the consoles. GPUs these days can run massive resolutions, while the consoles top out at 1080P.

That's not to say I don't absolutely love my 360, because I do. Can't wait for the New Xbox Experience coming out on tuesday. Finally the 360 will have 16:10 support.
 
I'd just like to add, that for some of us who need a nice rig anyways to record audio (quad core processors, 2-8 GB of RAM, etc.) the addition of a decent gaming GPU only costs around 200 dollars extra, quite a bit lower than the average console price. (I know the consoles are coming down in price, but think about the PS3 which came out at around $500) On top of that, most PC games are 10-15 dollars cheaper than console games.
 
FPS with an aim assistant? Right... and that's still just making excuses. The point is that anything doable with a console is doable with a PC. Consoles just hide any need to know anything at all - and in doing so kill the functionality not related to gaming. You're paying for a crippled computer at an inflated price.

And as for 'animation smoothness and texture detail'... turn down the resolution on a PC game and you'll be doing great... just remember to sit ten feet away from the TV and it'll all seem pretty smooth.

Jeff
 
In my experience, I've found many console games to slow down quite frequently. Just the other day I was playing FIFA 09 on PS3 (the apparent king of current gen console performance) and it shat itself out when the stadium's crowd came into view.

The thing is that most everyone owns a PC these days (unless they're Mac people, in which case yeah, console away) so it's not much of a stretch to get a cheap-arse, high performance GPU in there for a few hundred. Here in Australia, for $250 or $300 you can get a mid-range GPU that absolutely smokes most games on extremely high settings. RAM is dirt cheap currently, and our CPU offerings from Intel these days are insanely OC-able.

Once you factor in that 'playing my console on a 42" screen' mentality, the whole cost benefit of consoles goes belly up. A 24" screen for PCs is a few to several hundred, can run the same res as HDTVs and as a result has much better DPI. TVs give you a larger screen at the expense of simply blowing up the same level of quality you're seeing on a lot of monitors.

At the end of the day, there's nothing wrong with consoles for casual gamers, as it's after all the market that they're aimed at. I just don't see their application if you consider yourself more 'hardcore' and run a decked out PC. The PC's brute power and modularity smokes all.
 
In my experience, I've found many console games to slow down quite frequently. Just the other day I was playing FIFA 09 on PS3 (the apparent king of current gen console performance) and it shat itself out when the stadium's crowd came into view.
GTA4 had a lot of slowdowns too. I'll be interested to see how it performs on the PC when it comes out soon.
 
Nowadays I can play Bioshock all maxed out on my pc, but I´m pretty sure that when they release Bioshock 2 I´ll have to get a better GPU or cripple down the graphics AND the overall experience, while on the X360 I'll be able to play'em just fine (a bit ugly, but nothing really annoying).
That's the thing, though. If you can play Bioshock maxed out now, and Bioshock 2 comes out on a significantly better/upgraded engine, then your 360 AND your PC will have to scale back on the graphics.