Good shred metal?

[WNxScythe]

Basically I'm looking for GOOD metal (i.e. good songwriting) that has lots of lead work, lots of shredding (though it doesnt have to be ultra fast)... thrash kinda bores me so is there such a thing as "technical black metal"?

I need some stuff to work towards for my guitar practices... I play scales all the time but those get old and I could use some challenging lead style stuff that's good to listen to as well.

 

[Minion520]

write your own material, that never gets boring

 

[WNxScythe]

I don't feel confident enough yet... and I'm not really sure where to start.

 

[skeptik]

Thrash bores you? What do you know about Thrash?

 

[Death Aflame]

Winds - The Imaginary Direction of Time

It has alot of good, tasteful lead work but isnt black metal(even though it has members from Arcturus etc.)

Ophthalamia - Via Dolorosa is a great piece of black metal with focus on great riffs and leads(while not necessarily solos)

 

[AsModEe]

Basically I'm looking for GOOD metal (i.e. good songwriting) that has lots of lead work, lots of shredding (though it doesnt have to be ultra fast)... thrash kinda bores me so is there such a thing as "technical black metal"?

I need some stuff to work towards for my guitar practices... I play scales all the time but those get old and I could use some challenging lead style stuff that's good to listen to as well.

If a black metal band gets too technical, it will stop being 'black' metal. Well, that's what I heard from people on this board.

 

[AsModEe]

Winds - The Imaginary Direction of Time

It has alot of good, tasteful lead work but isnt black metal(even though it has members from Arcturus etc.)

Ophthalamia - Via Dolorosa is a great piece of black metal with focus on great riffs and leads(while not necessarily solos)

From what I've heard of Arcturus, it isn't really technical.

 

[Lilitu]

Nachtmystium - Eulogy IV

 

[Terrordome]

Dodheimsgard- 666 International. Can't go wrong with that album.

 

[WNxScythe]

Thanks guys keep em coming

@AsModEe
Some of Arcturus' stuff is KINDA technical (chaos path for instance), but you have stuff like wintrey gray too which is really simplistic. Arcturus' technicality also tends to be more from the piano

 

[Spirit In Black]

if think thrash is boring listen to Coroner and Atheist

also Mercyful Fate and early King Diamond have tons of guitar leads all over the place

 

[Unfaithfully Metalhead]

maybe you are just listening to the wrong thrash albums/bands... what are you listening to in terms of thrash? ... try Exodus's Tempo of the Damned...

 

[MetalHeadMarc]

wow, of all the dudes on the board, none of em steped up to the plate and suggested that many bands.

You want bands that shred?
Check out:

Children of Bodom
Hearse
Arsis - celebration of guilt (it will change you life perspective)
Yngwie Malsteen's rising force (I know alotta doods here shit on the guy but he can fuckign shred, I like his first 2 albums, Rising force and Marching out)
Cacophony (old 80's group w/ Marty Friedman and Jason Becker)
Nonexist
Nevermore
Necrophagist

 

[anonymousnick2001]

The funny thing is, Arsis shred without shredding, if you catch my drift. Their album has hooks and leads oozing out the ass, but no wank.

 

[Cynical]

Windham Hell is the band that the thread starter is looking for.

 

[The Grimace]

#1 Arcturus is technical.
#2 There is no such thing as "technical black metal".

 

[genocide roach]

PSYPHERIA- embrace the mutation

killer shredding, busy riffs. youll dig it
~gR~

 

[WNxScythe]

maybe you are just listening to the wrong thrash albums/bands... what are you listening to in terms of thrash? ... try Exodus's Tempo of the Damned...

Well my dislike of thrash might be simply because I havent heard much... Pretty much just metallica (old stuff). I KNOW that they are worthless now (I was cracking up all the way through the little I heard of St Anger) but was their old stuff (MOP, RTL, etc...) a good representation of thrash or have I only heard bad stuff?

BTW, you guys use the term "wank" alot... what exactly are you talking about? Technical playing that isn’t good songwriting or what? And why can there be no technical black metal? Is there something in black metal that
makes it so it MUST be simplistic?

 

[WNxScythe]

Well I just went to Kreator's site and played a few samples... impressive stuff. The vocals kinda throw me off, but it definitely sounds like I should buy some stuff from these guys. It sounds alot better than Metallica's [old] work to me at least. I do wish I could find some slightly more "moody, ambient" thrash with distorted vocals. "Ambient" I mean like the way that BM is "ambient" (there's truckloads of "ambience")... I don't mean techno ambient

Any opinions on their best album?

Even them though, it just doesnt do as much for me as BM or [some] DM...

I checked out Arsis, they sound pretty cool... I already liked Nevermore... I'll have to listen to Arsis some more though before I make a final judgment.

Thanks for that recommendation tho, it definitely sounds technical (listening to sample right now)

The only problem with them is I can't find any tab for their songs! So I can't practice their songs

 

[Ultimate_Symphony]

Windham Hell - Reflective Depths Imbibe and Window Of Souls
Cacophony - Speed Metal Symphony
Aborym - With No Human Intervention (This is as close to technical black metal as you can get, there's some sick lead guitar work here)
Winds - Reflections Of The I
Adagio - Underworld
Necrophagist - Onset Of Putrefaction
Intestine Baalism - Banquet In The Darkness
Symphony X - The Divine Wings Of Tragedy
Into Eternity - Buried In Oblivion