Graveland pwned in MetalCrypt Editorial, J. Cries

[J.]

nice generalization

maybe i should just assume your beloved Tea Party sucks even though ive never heard them. yep ive decided it.

meh, you're not worth it

 

[Necromunchkin]

I don't get it... he might say that his band isn't NS, but it totally is. You can buy shirts that have a runic message on them that used to be a banner on his website. Moose and I translated it one time and it says "White Beast of Wotan"!

True, but that could have been referring to Wotan's Nordic love muscle of doom...

 

[cthulufhtagn]

I know I laughed pretty damned hard when I read that people used to think echos were actually dwarves repeating what was said, just to fuck with people.

hahahahaha ftw!!


@benmech: even burzum? cmon now, let's not be hasty...

 

[J.]

http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/...posting-royal-carnage-thread.html#post6032792

why can't some metal "fans" just accept that some NSBM is actually good music? it's like they don't even try.

this is not a knock against LotFP. jim and his zine have my full respect.

 

[Dazed and Brutal]

There are plenty of good NS bands.

Nokturnal Mortum
Grand Belial's Key (not 100% sure if they are)
I Shalt Become
Hate Forest
Thor's Hammer
Gontyna Kry
Fanisk

 

[J.]

GBK would be considered as such since they are friends/shar members with Arghoslent. Guilt by association, apparently. Same with Drudkh.

If you ask those "openminded" fellows.

 

[JayKeeley]

http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/...posting-royal-carnage-thread.html#post6032792

why can't some metal "fans" just accept that some NSBM is actually good music? it's like they don't even try.

Erm, with regards to LotFP, it's not exactly a 'zine that's fond of BM, let alone NSBM. The closest they might get to BM is the likes of Arcturus, Solefald, and Enslaved, etc.

EDIT: Not that there's anything wrong with that. [/seinfeld]

 

[Jim LotFP]

why can't some metal "fans" just accept that some NSBM is actually good music? it's like they don't even try.

1- Race is insignificant in determining the potential of any individual.

2- Ancestral pride is taking credit for shit that other people did before you even existed.

1 + 2 = Anyone going on about their race, other people's race, Nazi shit, or whatever, is a special edition elite dumbass of the first order, and whether or not these people can handle their instruments is a moot point if they involve any of this in their music.

Look, I put up my mother going on about my pals, spics, wops, and what have you when I was growing up. I have no interest in hearing this bullshit from anyone, at any time, and certainly not in something (music) that I consider important and powerful.

 

[JayKeeley]

1- Race is insignificant in determining the potential of any individual.

2- Ancestral pride is taking credit for shit that other people did before you even existed.

1 + 2 = Anyone going on about their race, other people's race, Nazi shit, or whatever, is a special edition elite dumbass of the first order, and whether or not these people can handle their instruments is a moot point if they involve any of this in their music.

Look, I put up my mother going on about my pals, spics, wops, and what have you when I was growing up. I have no interest in hearing this bullshit from anyone, at any time, and certainly not in something (music) that I consider important and powerful.

DISCLAIMER FOR JIM: Before everyone responds to your post, I just want to say I take no responsibility for their personal opinions, even if it is stated on this board. Please remember this when a certain Reign in Acai might feel the need to respond to your point #1.

 

[J.]

1- Race is insignificant in determining the potential of any individual.

2- Ancestral pride is taking credit for shit that other people did before you even existed.

1 + 2 = Anyone going on about their race, other people's race, Nazi shit, or whatever, is a special edition elite dumbass of the first order, and whether or not these people can handle their instruments is a moot point if they involve any of this in their music.

Fair enough. I guess some of us can see past the racist or guilt-by-association generalizations that some fans hold dear. Still, you're missing out on some moving music.

Though I wonder, if Haughm or even that former red headed Iced Earth singer came out and spoke of ancestral pride (I do know Agalloch are proud of American heritage) and or white dominance, would current fans give a shit.

Or a band like Lord Wind, which is Rob Darken, with no lyrics. Is this band NS simply because it's Rob Darken?

Where do you draw the line?

 

[JayKeeley]

J - make the distinction between NS and NS'BM'. If someone doesn't like BM, then NSBM won't get a look in by default, regardless of its ideaology.

 

[Lies and Perfidy]

I think it's really kind of a moot point unless you speak Ukranian.

 

[cthulufhtagn]

I think it's really kind of a moot point unless you speak Ukranian.

i agree. i would consider my political views strongly anti-nationalist and drudkh are one of my favorite bands of all time

 

[JayKeeley]

so does speaking Ukranian permit you the ability to understand someone screaming "bllarrghu raaah lkjdsaj baaaansssheeeee"?

 

[skeptik]

I just find the idea laughable that something that you can enjoy without any knowledge of the political ideology of the band can be so completely changed by learning said information, as if it alters something in the music itself. I prefer to judge music based on its own merits, not on emotional attachments or certain quirks of my own (or for that matter, of the artist, as long as it doesn't necessarily impact the music).

 

[Crimson Velvet]

1- Race is insignificant in determining the potential of any individual.

2- Ancestral pride is taking credit for shit that other people did before you even existed.

1 + 2 = Anyone going on about their race, other people's race, Nazi shit, or whatever, is a special edition elite dumbass of the first order, and whether or not these people can handle their instruments is a moot point if they involve any of this in their music.

Look, I put up my mother going on about my pals, spics, wops, and what have you when I was growing up. I have no interest in hearing this bullshit from anyone, at any time, and certainly not in something (music) that I consider important and powerful.

I saw you at a Reverend Bizarre gig. You look like the type who ended up on the shallow side of the gene pool yourself, which explains your irrational thoughts on this subject.

 

[Lies and Perfidy]

Generally, if the band is openly NS, I'm not gonna buy their stuff. But that won't stop me from listening to and enjoying them – I'm just not giving them my money. (Which I'm sure they're okay with, being that it's dirty Jew money.)

 

[skeptik]

(Which I'm sure they're okay with, being that it's dirty Jew money.)

I never thought of it that way, good point.

 

[J.]

Generally, if the band is openly NS, I'm not gonna buy their stuff. But that won't stop me from listening to and enjoying them – I'm just not giving them my money. (Which I'm sure they're okay with, being that it's dirty Jew money.)

nice try justifying downloads and piracy

 

[Lies and Perfidy]

I really have no regrets about stealing from deluded cocksuckers who want my race wiped from the earth. Actually I'd sorta like to rub it in sometime.