"Growing out" of metal.

If it's referring to how Nightwish started dumbing down their albums around the same time Evanescence 'made it' then it seems fair enough. While it's one thing to say commercial success maketh not the fail, 'commercialising' music is still major fail.

i can't really remember cos it was so long ago mang. But i think it was a "this band got popular and i hate popular things, so i will stop listening to this other vaguely-similar band that i like up until now" sort of thing.

but at the risk of derailing the topic... i keep having this arguement with people about nightwish, cos i don't see how people can complain that they "went commercial" or (as you put it) dumbed down their albums when we're talking about something with the song "Ghost Love Score" on it. :worship:
 
i don't see how people can complain that they "went commercial" or (as you put it) dumbed down their albums when we're talking about something with the song "Ghost Love Score" on it. :worship:

At risk of sounding I'm complaining about accessibility being a bad thing (which it isn't), basically the music has gotten more complex in terms of orchestrations but that's about it. Everything else - particularly the elements that make rock/metal what it is are generally toned down and of less significance than in pre-Century Child albums. The complexity of the orchestrations doesn't add anything to the complexity of the music either. It felt like the majority of the songs on their recent albums tend to follow the formula of "play a cool riff, drop everything back to bass drums and strings for the verse, throw in some token chug-chugs for the second half of the verse, add guitar again for loud catchy chorus", alternating between re-introducing the 'main' riff during and immediately after the chorus.

I still like a lot of the music on "Once" but nothing off "Dark Passion Play" has grabbed me yet and I find each album from "Century Child" onwards is getting more and more predictable sounding within itself.
 
Some of their simpler stuff is older than Once. Bless The Child, Come Cover Me and She Is My Sin for example aren't overly complex. There's probably more simple riffage now though.

I didn't grow out of it as such, I got bored with the majority of new releases very quickly and stopped finding things that I liked.

That's how I am with everything other than metal. I haven't got into too many new metal bands in recent times, but at least the bands I've been into for yonks are often still releasing stuff for me to buy. As for anything else....crikey....the only rock band other than some local ones that I've got into at all in the last decade is Muse.
 
Which ones have you been getting into? I'd be happy to get into some stuff that's new to me. When I was really getting into music as a youngster bands like Faith No More, Soundgarden and Alice in Chains were emerging. Where are the 21st century equivalents??!!
 
Have your heard Alter Bridge? To me, they sound like Soundgarden cross with Creed cross with Zakk Wylde, all of which I really like. Awesome band.

As for older stuff, in the last few years I have finally gotten around to getting into more Rainbow, The Tea Party, A Perfect Circle, Queens of the Stone Age, Joy Division, Led Zep and Pink Floyd (though still early stages with these last three), and lately it has been all Depeche Mode, who have become a favourite band of mine. I haven't gotten into anyone as much as I have gotten into them since I heard Iced Earth and Grave Digger around 8 or so years ago.

I have just remembered, The Music are another newer band that I like, and dare I mention on here *gulp* The Kaiser Chiefs.
 
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