BM should be raw, ugly not some overproduced bullshit. I see no difference between Shagrath and Justin Bieber, they all require a shit ton of processing to sound like that
I like one dimmu borgir album... and I also like some emperor, immortal and thorns... but definetely the best black metal album ever made is dark funeral's diabolis interium, it can't get better than that... that's the only bm I listen
that's carpathian forest's bassist btw and no, I don't need moar bm in my life, emperor, immortal, thorns and dark funeral is more than enough so fu all with yer watain and shit.
Nick seriously need to listen to moar Shining. They groove like a motherfucker.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FRGMp35OAo&feature=related[/ame]
This is not their best song imo, but since you're into groove, you might like this since it kinda.... grooves. >_>