Here is a fucking challenge that I bet you can't meet.

[Loren Littlejohn]

Situation:

You have good tracks. All of it was recorded well the tracks by themselves are pretty kick ass.


Here is the ownage:

You can only use what you got, no samples at all period use them and fail.

You have to mix with only the fallowing:

Your DAW's stock 4 band eq (don't care if there are more bands you get 4 that's IT!)

Your DAW's stock compressor/gate. The nice thing however is this can be side chained and both the gate and the compressor are separate within the same plug.

Your DAW's stock reverb... and it's simple . You get the fallowing perameters: Wet/dry, Room size, Width, and dampening. This is all you get.


Could you do it? Would your mix still kick ass?


Because it's the situation I am in right now with a few mixes I have to do at school.

I'm using this:

However there are no 3rd party plugs installed except for a handful of not really so great ones that I consider pretty useless.

My first mix is a bust. I took it home to make notes on and I am gonna fix it as best as I can when I go back.

 

[if6was9]

is there any way of sending a track you've processed to another empty track and add more eq, gates, or compression? that'd help alot if you could

 

[ArtGarceau]

Situation:

You have good tracks. All of it was recorded well the tracks by themselves are pretty kick ass.


Here is the ownage:

You can only use what you got, no samples at all period use them and fail.

You have to mix with only the fallowing:

Your DAW's stock 4 band eq (don't care if there are more bands you get 4 that's IT!)

Your DAW's stock compressor/gate. The nice thing however is this can be side chained and both the gate and the compressor are separate within the same plug.

Your DAW's stock reverb... and it's simple . You get the fallowing perameters: Wet/dry, Room size, Width, and dampening. This is all you get.


Could you do it? Would your mix still kick ass?


Because it's the situation I am in right now with a few mixes I have to do at school.

I'm using this:

However there are no 3rd party plugs installed except for a handful of not really so great ones that I consider pretty useless.

My first mix is a bust. I took it home to make notes on and I am gonna fix it as best as I can when I go back.

I honestly don't use a whole lot more than that when mixing a good non metal recording.

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

Oh yeah I should have said this:

8 buses, 12 auxes, 1-24 are recording inputs, 25-47 are what you mix on, 48-72 are open. You can group faders, there are (I think) 12 groups at least.

On each channel strip however your stuck with 1 eq and 1 compressor/gate.

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

Yeah...

This is metal

If this was anything else I think I could do it and have it sound great actually.

 

[ArtGarceau]

http://www.windycitymastering.com/impmix.mp3

Here is something I mixed for a mix project a PSW. Not my best work, but all I used was DigiEQIII, Digi comp/gate, and Dverb because I had just done a fresh install of my OS and hadn't had a chance to install any plugs yet. Lots of automation, but not many plugins. This started as a fantastic recording and was practically mixed with the faders all at unity.

 

[Sinister Mephisto]

What's the big deal with that? The only thing I'd really miss is a delay. Honestly, I think you're looking at this the wrong way. This is a way to force yourself to learn how to get good natural sounds without anything fancy, which is what sounds best most of the time anyway. Stock plugins aren't awful anyway.

 

[TheDude]

What's the big deal with that? The only thing I'd really miss is a delay. Honestly, I think you're looking at this the wrong way. This is a way to force yourself to learn how to get good natural sounds without anything fancy, which is what sounds best most of the time anyway. Stock plugins aren't awful anyway.

+1

You have a desk with an EQ and Gate/comp on EVERY channel. Plus groups, plus... No problem to do a good mix on that desk.

 

[scorpio01169]

really though....the guy made a challenge, instead of telling him why you can't or shouldn't do it....at least try. it shouldn't matter whether it's metal or not...because metal was done on stuff before plug-ins and fancy gizmos like re-amping, impulses, and samples, I'll give it a shot.

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

Actually thinking about it now it really should be fine. The only thing I am not fond of is kick unfortunately. I don't like the dynamics!

 

[LydonB]

what kind of console is that anyway?

 

[scorpio01169]

what kind of console is that anyway?

it's a mackie dxb

 

[JBroll]

I'd only miss a clipper, honestly...

Jeff

 

[jesterroot4]

GuitarGodgt,
your a lucky man! haha you should see the piece of shit my college just bought for us to do a load of mixes on. its some Yamaha thing, with one screen in the middle (equivalent to the first ever gameboy screen(yes, black and white and extremely pixilated, roughly 6 inches) with the cheapest sounding compressor, verb and EQ. i will find out what it is and post it up...

 

[-J-]

do that thing where you use your forearms to slide all the faders up at once.

 

[garry666]

wow that sucks dude, my college has way better equipment just started using a control 24 later we get to use an one of the icon setups im not sure how many faders, and later still an amek einstein.

 

[Jevil]

I miss one delay effect, for vocals, lead and solo guitars.

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

It's a mackie digital X bus.

It's very much like the days of tape, very limited editing and plugs. It's been fed audio by an alesis HD24 unit. Your limited to 24 tracks of recorded audio with this thing. The nice thing however is that you can record that many tracks at once with zero latency and have the ability to have up to 8 different headphones mixes. It uses Onyx preamps.

So it's fantastic actually to record with.

We had the fallowing mics:

2X D2
2x MD421
2X MD441
2X e604
2X SM81
12X sm57
4X e609
1X beta52a
1X D112
2X C519 (AKG)
1X beyer something (dynamic)
1X peavey something (couldn't find it online so I think it's something not made anymore)

 

[jesterroot4]

this post makes me wonder why i'm at college...

we have....

Mackie 16.8 Desk (not in production anymore)
Motu 828 MKII ( most decent thing )
imac (512ram, not sure on hard drive, but 14 gig left?)
1 x SM57
1 x SM58
1 x D112
1 x Sennheiser E840S
1 x cheap budget kit mic set
1 or 2 other mics that know one has ever heard off.

a Live room that is just made from painted breeze blocks with low ceiling and about the size of a single garage. (so basically a garage) no acoustic treatment, nuthin! its sickening

thats about it really.

ahh my college is crap! my teachers hate it because they cant even teach us, non of the macs can even handle sampletank without crashing.

this is only the half of it lol

 

[garry666]

shit guys that sucks, well thanks for making my like my college alot more