Holocaust deniers
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I'm not too sure about the holocaust, I can imagine the numbers being exaggerated a bit to demonise the nazis more, but other than that I'm not going to make a judgement either way.
But I do wonder, why is it everyone is aware of the holocaust, the nazis and the '11,000,000' that they killed, yet no one knows of the 45,000,000+ million that died under Mao Zedong, the 20,000,000+ million that were killed under Stalin's purges or even the 2,000,000 that were killed under Pol Pot.
Edit: My signature is also sarcastic, don't take it too seriously.
But I do wonder, why is it everyone is aware of the holocaust, the nazis and the '11,000,000' that they killed, yet no one knows of the 45,000,000+ million that died under Mao Zedong, the 20,000,000+ million that were killed under Stalin's purges or even the 2,000,000 that were killed under Pol Pot.
Edit: My signature is also sarcastic, don't take it too seriously.
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I think our racial problems go much farther back than that. Jews had immigrated to the United States en masse decades before. In 1925, Jews were full fledged American citizens on par with white Americans in legal rights. Jews had been settling in America since the seventeenth century. This can't be attributed to Jewish influence in America. It was nonexistent prior to 1925. We let the Jews immigrate to our country, granted them equal rights with our own citizens, and stood idly by while they began to accumulate wealth, as they snapped up assets of influence, as they penetrated positions of power, and even as they began to engage in anti-white political activism in organizations like the Communist Party USA. We never had to do any of this. I would say our nonchalant indifference in the face of this disaster then, as today, cries out for explanation. The seeds of the JQ in America were planted long before they matured into substantial Jewish power. But Jews weren't our only problem.
The ancestors of virtually all our blacks were already living in America in 1925. They were brought here for the most part during the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, again, before Jews had any significant influence in America. In 1925, blacks were American citizens; protected by the fourteenth and fifteenth amendments of the U.S. Constitution. They were also protected by the Civil Rights Act of 1866, Civil Rights Act of 1871, and the Civil Rights Act of 1875 (struck down in 1883). The legal foundation of Negro equality in America was laid in the Reconstruction era: citizenship, voting rights, equal protection, integrated schools, non-discrimination in housing and public accomodations. There was nothing really new in the 1960s that had not been pioneered a century earlier. Massachusetts repealed its anti-miscegenation law in 1843. Most states in the American Northeast did not have anti-miscegenation laws in 1925. Vermont never adopted one. So, Negroes were voting in American elections, attending schools with white children, and were even marrying white Americans in many states in 1925.
What about other minorities? Indians were granted U.S. citizenship in 1924. Hawaii was a U.S. territory by 1925. The Phillippines and Puerto Rico were also U.S. territories. Chinese and Japanese immigrants settled in California and Hawaii during the nineteenth century. They were accorded citizenship as a result of the fourteenth amendment and the ruling of the SCOTUS in United States v. Wong Kim Ark in 1898. The restrictions on Chinese immigration were loosened by during the Roosevelt administration because of pressure from Chiang Kai Shek. There was also pressure to liberalize Asiatic immigration from GIs who wanted to bring their war brides back to America; a situation that would happen again in Korea and Vietnam. Mexicans had been living in the United States since the Southwest was acquired during the Mexican War. Mexicans were U.S. citizens in 1925 and had been immigrating to the U.S. for a long time to work for railroads in the southwestern U.S. Hundreds of thousands of Mexicans fled to the United States in the aftermath of the Mexican Revolution. Millions of Mexicans were deported from the United States during the Great Depression under President Hoover and again in the 1950s as part of Operation Wetback under President Eisenhower.
In summa, Jews, Indians, Negroes, Mexicans, Chinese, Japanese, and Hawaiians were all U.S. citizens in 1925. It should also not be forgotten that prominent white Americans had long spoke out in favor of racial equality. John Wilkes Booth shot Abraham Lincoln after he came out in favor of civil rights in his last speech. William Lloyd Garrison also come to mind. The abolitionist movement was responsible for overturning Massachusett's anti-miscegenation law. His grandson, Oswald Garrison Villard, was a founding member of the NAACP. John Dewey and Jane Addams were also founding members of the NAACP and outspoken advocates of civil rights. John Dewey was the most famous American philosopher of his generation and influenced countless young minds. Racial egalitarianism was present in the Progressive movement. Randolph Bourne is the father of the American multiculturalism; the version of multiculturalism where whites are stripped of their identity and forced to become cosmopolitans whereas other minorities are encouraged to celebrate their own ethnic particularism.
It seems evident to me that whites have inflicted this problem upon themselves; that Jews were allowed to come to America and accumulate unjustifiable wealth and disproportionate influence because Americans allowed them to do so. White Americans allowed them to do this because they are committed to the liberal political ideology they have inherited from their ancestors. It takes five minutes to illustrate this. Just ask any typical white American why he holds the views he does. He will start off by saying racism is wrong. He will then proceed to explain that racism is wrong because 1.) we are all human beings, 2.) we should treat people as individuals, 3.) discrimination is wrong because everyone should be treated equally, 4.) nonwhites should be able to express themselves, 5.) anti-miscegenation laws and segregation infringe upon individual freedom. In other words, racialism is wrong because of liberalism. This is what the typical white American believes. It is certainly true that Jews have promoted this destructive ideology to advance their own interests, but they are simply exploiting this preexisting and integral aspect of American culture to promote their own ends. Their rise to power has been an effect of our degeneracy. Where am I going wrong?
http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4700
( Translation: if you're gonna gas people, get all the undermen; exile Jews because they're alien, but it's not All Their Fault. )
The ancestors of virtually all our blacks were already living in America in 1925. They were brought here for the most part during the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, again, before Jews had any significant influence in America. In 1925, blacks were American citizens; protected by the fourteenth and fifteenth amendments of the U.S. Constitution. They were also protected by the Civil Rights Act of 1866, Civil Rights Act of 1871, and the Civil Rights Act of 1875 (struck down in 1883). The legal foundation of Negro equality in America was laid in the Reconstruction era: citizenship, voting rights, equal protection, integrated schools, non-discrimination in housing and public accomodations. There was nothing really new in the 1960s that had not been pioneered a century earlier. Massachusetts repealed its anti-miscegenation law in 1843. Most states in the American Northeast did not have anti-miscegenation laws in 1925. Vermont never adopted one. So, Negroes were voting in American elections, attending schools with white children, and were even marrying white Americans in many states in 1925.
What about other minorities? Indians were granted U.S. citizenship in 1924. Hawaii was a U.S. territory by 1925. The Phillippines and Puerto Rico were also U.S. territories. Chinese and Japanese immigrants settled in California and Hawaii during the nineteenth century. They were accorded citizenship as a result of the fourteenth amendment and the ruling of the SCOTUS in United States v. Wong Kim Ark in 1898. The restrictions on Chinese immigration were loosened by during the Roosevelt administration because of pressure from Chiang Kai Shek. There was also pressure to liberalize Asiatic immigration from GIs who wanted to bring their war brides back to America; a situation that would happen again in Korea and Vietnam. Mexicans had been living in the United States since the Southwest was acquired during the Mexican War. Mexicans were U.S. citizens in 1925 and had been immigrating to the U.S. for a long time to work for railroads in the southwestern U.S. Hundreds of thousands of Mexicans fled to the United States in the aftermath of the Mexican Revolution. Millions of Mexicans were deported from the United States during the Great Depression under President Hoover and again in the 1950s as part of Operation Wetback under President Eisenhower.
In summa, Jews, Indians, Negroes, Mexicans, Chinese, Japanese, and Hawaiians were all U.S. citizens in 1925. It should also not be forgotten that prominent white Americans had long spoke out in favor of racial equality. John Wilkes Booth shot Abraham Lincoln after he came out in favor of civil rights in his last speech. William Lloyd Garrison also come to mind. The abolitionist movement was responsible for overturning Massachusett's anti-miscegenation law. His grandson, Oswald Garrison Villard, was a founding member of the NAACP. John Dewey and Jane Addams were also founding members of the NAACP and outspoken advocates of civil rights. John Dewey was the most famous American philosopher of his generation and influenced countless young minds. Racial egalitarianism was present in the Progressive movement. Randolph Bourne is the father of the American multiculturalism; the version of multiculturalism where whites are stripped of their identity and forced to become cosmopolitans whereas other minorities are encouraged to celebrate their own ethnic particularism.
It seems evident to me that whites have inflicted this problem upon themselves; that Jews were allowed to come to America and accumulate unjustifiable wealth and disproportionate influence because Americans allowed them to do so. White Americans allowed them to do this because they are committed to the liberal political ideology they have inherited from their ancestors. It takes five minutes to illustrate this. Just ask any typical white American why he holds the views he does. He will start off by saying racism is wrong. He will then proceed to explain that racism is wrong because 1.) we are all human beings, 2.) we should treat people as individuals, 3.) discrimination is wrong because everyone should be treated equally, 4.) nonwhites should be able to express themselves, 5.) anti-miscegenation laws and segregation infringe upon individual freedom. In other words, racialism is wrong because of liberalism. This is what the typical white American believes. It is certainly true that Jews have promoted this destructive ideology to advance their own interests, but they are simply exploiting this preexisting and integral aspect of American culture to promote their own ends. Their rise to power has been an effect of our degeneracy. Where am I going wrong?
http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4700
( Translation: if you're gonna gas people, get all the undermen; exile Jews because they're alien, but it's not All Their Fault. )
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