How are you guys doin?

I also have questions for people who are ready to jump on a needle of the 'promiseland' as they see it as a shield to all recent problems.
It's known that vaccines bring consequences years later, at least ones that are sort of 'new' and before we got good old anti-flu and others ones - there have been tons of cases of not very pleasant side effects. So basically you sign in as a lab rat.
The whole thing is way too recent to be certain about anything.
Also... don't mean to sound like a conspiracy expert - but how can we be sure this whole thing wasn't artificially made to then vaccinate and control people after all?
And here you are at a crossroads because on one hand there's unwillingness to be just another goverment's sheep but you're also cut out of every public experiences that you used to have living in society, so you can very well fo and go live in a forest.
 
While I'm not opposed to getting the vaccine, I wouldn't be first in line for it, either. I'd really like to know beforehand if I've already had Covid because if I have, I had no symptoms. In that case, I would wait, if possible. I could still get it again/have no symptoms/give it to others who might die from it, but hopefully the vulnerable would already be vaccinated.

Related thoughts -- Since we've been cooped up and masked up for almost 9 months, I haven't had even a slight cold. Worries me a little bit that my immune system hasn't had to fight off anything for so long. I'm no expert, but I would think a little "exercise" for the immune system now and then is beneficial and important. *eats dirt*
 
Land of the fucking free....

My body, my choice, amirite
Don't you live in Texas? Freedom state my fucking ass lol too old to be this silly man

I also have questions for people who are ready to jump on a needle of the 'promiseland' as they see it as a shield to all recent problems.
It's known that vaccines bring consequences years later, at least ones that are sort of 'new' and before we got good old anti-flu and others ones - there have been tons of cases of not very pleasant side effects. So basically you sign in as a lab rat.
The whole thing is way too recent to be certain about anything.
Also... don't mean to sound like a conspiracy expert - but how can we be sure this whole thing wasn't artificially made to then vaccinate and control people after all?
And here you are at a crossroads because on one hand there's unwillingness to be just another goverment's sheep but you're also cut out of every public experiences that you used to have living in society, so you can very well fo and go live in a forest.
I guess that Russia takeover of Ukraine was an ideological one
 
Since we've been cooped up and masked up for almost 9 months, I haven't had even a slight cold. Worries me a little bit that my immune system hasn't had to fight off anything for so long.

I've been having the same thought. On one hand it's """"cool"""" to be not sick at all, as I usually catch my little annual cold in Sept./Oct. and possible another one in February/March. On the other hand, yup, terra incognita.
 
but you're also cut out of every public experiences that you used to have living in society, so you can very well fo and go live in a forest.
This has been my intent for about 2 years now, once I quit being in a band that primarily stopped my social life, because...................I just want to fuck off and go live in a forest. The idea was to save up / check out over 5 to 10 years, but all this coronashit might shorten the schedule.

I want the vaccine so that I don't die/kill. I have no plans of going back to 2019 Normal.
 
Yeah, you're right. That's really what we should be talking about here.

This all drills down to the fact that no one will ever change their opinion because they read someone else's point of view on the internet. Everybody has their own opinions about 2020 and 99% of us are willing to die before we change our minds.
 
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Yeah, you're right. That's really what we should be talking about here.

This all drills down to the fact that no one will ever change their opinion because they read someone else's point of view on the internet. Everybody has their own opinions about 2020 and 99% of us are willing to die before we change our minds.

That's my general feeling on the matter. I had typed up a long, serious response and realized that it's probably going to be fruitless in anything except generating antagonism. I've argued enough with people on Facebook and that's not what I want to do here.

This has been a nice burst of activity though and it would be nice if we could get that going in the music threads again.
 
They say that age brings wisdom but once I turned 40 turns out I've been wrong about everything my entire life.

I try not to have opinions anymore but they still happen. And are typically proven wrong within a few years/hours.
 
This all drills down to the fact that no one will ever change their opinion because they read someone else's point of view on the internet. Everybody has their own opinions about 2020 and 99% of us are willing to die before we change our minds.

Only a fool is rigid in his opinions. If our gov't (lol) can come to an agreeable solution that curbs the infections while allowing people to work and live as they see fit ('Murica), I will support it without argument even if it means wearing a fucking gay ass mask.

However, our govt, CDC, WHO, and whoever else changes shit on the daily. States are making up random orders, all the while people are suffering with no end in sight.

Also, only a fool doesnt question authority. Yall are trusting a govt run by a narcissist, an old hag and the two dudes thay would fit in Grumpy Old Men. And a dementia ridden guy that probably forgets to put on underwear is about to take over.

NADs forest idea sounds wondrous
 
Also, only a fool doesnt question authority. Yall are trusting a govt run by a narcissist, an old hag and the two dudes thay would fit in Grumpy Old Men. And a dementia ridden guy that probably forgets to put on underwear is about to take over.

NADs forest idea sounds wondrous

Hear, hear. I agree wholeheartedly with you. This government is not worthy of our trust. Not now, not then, and probably not ever. I guess I'm just sick of the Trumpers around here saying "SEE? LOOK AT SWEDEN, THEY DIDNT DO ANYTHING AND NOW THE VIRUS DOESNT EXIST ANYMORE"
 
Also... don't mean to sound like a conspiracy expert - but how can we be sure this whole thing wasn't artificially made to then vaccinate and control people after all?
can you please explain the mechanisms by which a vaccine would allow a government to control an individual

also isn't the point of governments administering a vaccine to the populace to relinquish some of the control they currently have and allow people their freedom back?
 
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"SEE? LOOK AT SWEDEN, THEY DIDNT DO ANYTHING AND NOW THE VIRUS DOESNT EXIST ANYMORE"
i think probably they will have to find some other lie to repeat because shit is finally hitting the fan in a big way here. look at the graphs:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

if you ever hear "sweden is doing just as well as anyone else, they just had a ~*dIfFeReNT StRaTeGY*~" then you are listening to lies. we have needlessly killed thousands of our own because of nothing but arrogance and pride. we are very much like finland or norway in terms of conditions but look at their numbers and compare them to ours.