Matt- no no - you got it all wrong.
I meant- I dont like my extreme metal music- to be too catchy.
hence the reason why I don't like progressive metal so much. it sounds too "happy " to me, (I like some progressive though... mostly old stuff- we talked about that)
Tiamat is catchy maybe, but its not "pop" its not "happy pappy solo guitars"
and a whole circuss on the grif.... I really can't stand those things anymore...
sorry matt

Tiamat is doom goth metal, very heavy tunes, very dark... I love cds like that
and another thing matt: I love a lot of things... i have an open mind when it comes to music
so dont take one line I said over IRC "I dont like catchy Metal so much" and reflect if on my 4000 cds and my musical taste.
also: for November Doom: they have some catchy songs, and some dark songs-
but it takes time to "get into it" even if its catchy- its not "popy"
- once you do though, its like you discovered a whole new world. The Knowing, and To Welcome The Fade are what I would recomand Brett to check out!!!!
They Own Brett- you won't be sorry!