i wanna hear you rock!

Greeno said:
Hey! I never said I was the leader now.

Baldy-- Come on Baldy, don't post stuff like that. I have these guys thinking that we are all equals and shit. They are actually buying into this "band without a leader" crap. :D As long as the beer is flowing and I tell them what they want to hear they are mine to control.


you dont wanna be leader greeno!i tried it once and it was a real pain in the ass.you had to do all the work and pay for all the stuff the band needed.it sucked.just keep quiet,play the gigs and let everybody else do the hard work! :D
 
Greeno said:
Damn! Remind me not to play with you guys!!!! :lol:

I guess I was the "leader" of the 2 bands I was in in clollege.... It was about 70% me and 30% the other guys, and the other band was pretty much 100% me.... However I was never a "my way or the highway" kinda guy, I was just the one who steered the band sound/style wise. :)
I'm not really THAT bad unless things aren't progressing the way I feel like they should. I love to "jam" with guys and I try to share in the style and songs etc. and let everyone have their turns at song choices etc. I'm not a tyrant or a dictator, but it's more like when someone isn't pulling their load or someone drinks too much, smokes too much etc. to where it affects their play or when everyone is bickering etc. I simply make it known that this is MY band and they need to straighten their ass up. Some people can't tolerate dealing with that, but I have found few bands can survive as a pure democracy. There has to be a leader and because I own the PA, know how to run a soundboard, know how to teach bandmates harmony vocals as well as knowing all their parts to the songs, and also added to the fact I am the lead guitarist, I get to be the boss. :err:

Bryant
 
JonnyD said:
hahahaha Yaknow I have that very same set of rules .... it doesnt normally get me very far .... Nobody likes it when the Bass Player Tells them what to do hahahaha
Ha ha ha I have a bass player friend who was the leader of his band. He owned the PA though. :loco:

Bryant
 
Bryant said:
Ha ha ha I have a bass player friend who was the leader of his band. He owned the PA though. :loco:

Bryant


maybe i'm doing something wrong then,cause i own the pa in my band and all i do is have to set it up.i'm not the leader.maybe i'll start a revolution,bring on a coup de'tat,overthrow the evil regime i've been practising and gigging under!
vive la baldy revolution!!!! :D
 
baldyboy said:
maybe i'm doing something wrong then,cause i own the pa in my band and all i do is have to set it up.i'm not the leader.maybe i'll start a revolution,bring on a coup de'tat,overthrow the evil regime i've been practising and gigging under!
vive la baldy revolution!!!! :D

:lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Bryant said:
Ha ha ha I have a bass player friend who was the leader of his band. He owned the PA though. :loco:

Bryant


I'v basiclly taken the leader roll most of the time just because of 2 things I have the loudest equpment hahaha and 2 I am normally the one that has the Vision of where to take things I might not write many of the songs but I help ummm whats the word for when you take the parts and put them in order hahahahahah I'ma Idiot hahahaha That and Like you said when somebody Drinks to much and loses their focus on the music then its my Job to be like Hey asshole play dont drink! .... :Grin:
 
JonnyD said:
2 I am normally the one that has the Vision of where to take things I might not write many of the songs but I help ummm whats the word for when you take the parts and put them in order hahahahahah I'ma Idiot hahahaha

Arranger... is that the word your burnt brain could not come up with? :D

JonnyD said:
then its my Job to be like Hey asshole play dont drink! .... :Grin:

:lol: Maybe you can straighten out Plan13 for me. :D
Actually with our crowd it's "drink, don't play". :) It's not really a band, just 4 or 5 old friends getting together to jam, trade war stories and drink a beer. We do try to write and record some songs along the way though.
 
Greeno said:
Arranger... is that the word your burnt brain could not come up with? :D


hehehe yes :D I think that word will do for now hahahaha I will sit there and listen for the slightest good part and when I hear it I point it out shit like that hahahha its fun its what I did before I started playing...


Greeno said:
:lol: Maybe you can straighten out Plan13 for me. :D
Actually with our crowd it's "drink, don't play". :) It's not really a band, just 4 or 5 old friends getting together to jam, trade war stories and drink a beer. We do try to write and record some songs along the way though.

That sounds cool My oooooold band was like that we Smoked a TON of weed and Played our asses off and had a great time We were the Kings of the block hahahahaha But then it got to serious yadda yadda yadda but it was fun as hell hahaha I'm lost :loco:
 
Bryant said:
Well I love to play. I am a guitarist by trade, but I also have a bass (an expensive one, but a sweeeeet one in a Peavey Foundation five string in glorious white) and I love to play drums as well, but am left-handed (only on drums as far as musical instruments) so I always piss off my friends by changing their sets around. I can sing in key, but don't have a nice "lead" voice so I usually practice hard on harmonies. With the exception of Gunter Werno of Vanden Plas, keyboards have never impressed me except as something to give an intro to a song, but my first instrument was an organ at about 10 years old so I can play a little piano, organ and keys.
I am a relatively friendly guy in all situations except as a bandmate. I believe in these rules:

Rule number one.... I am the boss.
Rule number two..... if you don't agree with rule number one, you're fired.

There has always been either a slack-ass who isn't working or someone just not talented enough to handle their part in every band I have ever been in and it turned me into a monster. I love to jam for fun and with my brother (who is an exceptional vocalist in the Southern Rock/Classic rock style) but the headaches of leading a band are too much for me. If I ever make some type of musical production, it will be all me or maybe a guest musician thrown in here and there and some guns for hire vocalists.

Brryant

Wow you must be an amazing musician, but most likely you just think you are
lol

Dick
 
Bryant said:
Rule number one.... I am the boss.
Rule number two..... if you don't agree with rule number one, you're fired.
Mr. Trump?
 
Unregistered User said:
Wow you must be an amazing musician, but most likely you just think you are
lol

Dick
Am I an amazing musician ? Not really. Am I competent and skilled ? Yes. I am also hard working, and when I were in bands I was very focused and I put a lot of time, energy and money into those bands. Unfortunately, I either would up with some people that didn't have the skills to play the music the rest of the band wanted or people that didn't show up for practice when they felt like it, or got hammered in the middle of practice.
It takes more luck than anything to make it in the music business, but it also takes hard work, dedication and skill. I was never rude to any bandmates that showed those attributes but those that didn't, I did everything in my power to help them achieve those qualities. I personally don't care what you think about me. I did what I thought was best to create successful bands and though it never happened, it damned sure wasn't because I didn't give 100% to it.


Bryant
 
Bryant said:
Am I an amazing musician ? Not really. Am I competent and skilled ? Yes. I am also hard working, and when I were in bands I was very focused and I put a lot of time, energy and money into those bands. Unfortunately, I either would up with some people that didn't have the skills to play the music the rest of the band wanted or people that didn't show up for practice when they felt like it, or got hammered in the middle of practice.
It takes more luck than anything to make it in the music business, but it also takes hard work, dedication and skill. I was never rude to any bandmates that showed those attributes but those that didn't, I did everything in my power to help them achieve those qualities. I personally don't care what you think about me. I did what I thought was best to create successful bands and though it never happened, it damned sure wasn't because I didn't give 100% to it.
Bryant
I have three friends that played in bands at different times (bass, drums and vocals/rythm guitar). One is still active (the vocalist) his band in in the studio right now and preparing gigs back home. It take him a long time to make this work (he's not a full-time musician) and this is his third band.

Most of the statements you gave above have been expressed by him also several times, ergo those facts are the same everywhere...and hurt the same.
 
Well I own a bass, and TRY to play. Since I rarely play when I do, I'm pissed off. That is what happens when you don't practice anymore!! I sing as well but I never find people who want to anything interesting, either they want some lame opera shit or Cradle of Flith vocals. So I always quit, plus I have mega stage fright. If I would perfrom I think I would have to pull a Jim Morrison.
 
I will admit my ego probably was in the way of the success I could have had in a band, but it was not an ego that stemmed because I thought I was "better" than anyone else, but rather an ego based on that I thought I put more effort, time and money into my band. If I come accross as an asshole I probably was when I had those bands, but I also made geographical errors by not moving to a bigger city where I could have found musicians with the drive I had.
I don't look back in remorse at all though. My personality makes me where I can't tolerate much bullshit. In the American metal scene there is an extreme amount of bullshit you have to tolerate and I wouldn't have been able to handle it. In my (occupational) field of industrial troubleshooter, if I get pissed off at someone I can tell them to go to hell and if they decide to fire me, I can just go to the next company.
As I said, I don't mean to come accross as an asshole and I don't feel like I am when it comes to personal matters, but I take things more seriously when it comes to my profession. I am a good guy who will share my skills with anyone if they are willing to learn, but if they want to "bullshit" I have little use for them.


Bryant
 
Bryant said:
I will admit my ego probably was in the way of the success I could have had in a band, but it was not an ego that stemmed because I thought I was "better" than anyone else, but rather an ego based on that I thought I put more effort, time and money into my band. If I come accross as an asshole I probably was when I had those bands, but I also made geographical errors by not moving to a bigger city where I could have found musicians with the drive I had.
I don't look back in remorse at all though. My personality makes me where I can't tolerate much bullshit. In the American metal scene there is an extreme amount of bullshit you have to tolerate and I wouldn't have been able to handle it. In my (occupational) field of industrial troubleshooter, if I get pissed off at someone I can tell them to go to hell and if they decide to fire me, I can just go to the next company.
As I said, I don't mean to come accross as an asshole and I don't feel like I am when it comes to personal matters, but I take things more seriously when it comes to my profession. I am a good guy who will share my skills with anyone if they are willing to learn, but if they want to "bullshit" I have little use for them.


Bryant
dont worry bryant,no ones having a go at you for your attitude.to be honest,i'd like to be more like you in my attitude-a more professional approach to things.i totally respect that.
doesnt mean that other,more juvenile board members wont take this piss a little though. :D
 
Bryants a hell of a good guy ..... its just that he thinks people are out to get him sometimes hahahaha But I mean that tho I have never heard the man play but I already know he is a good guitarist Just cause I know him I can tell ... its something that he really loves to do and it goes beyond just playing metal and what not its a total pure love of music and I respect the bastard for it :D
 
Bryant, actually I think your main problem is that you see music as a business and most of all want to make it bigtime... I'm in two bands, one had five offers from record labels before our demo was even released and a few more since (Though we haven't signed anything yet) and the other one's new, we'll have our first live concert next friday. Music is art or made for fun, but not in any way business. That's for Britney Spears and such.
 
Oh, and before me and some friends started that first band none of us played any instrument (Well, one guy had played the guitar for a while but he lef/got fired quite soon).
The current drummer in my thrash band is really skilled though, but he's out after the gig and possibly a demo recording if we can get it done soon enough.