jimbobhickville said:
Whatever, Barlow is credited with bacvking vocals on the record, but so are quite a few others.
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Whatever, Barlow is credited with bacvking vocals on the record, but so are quite a few others.
markgugs said:BWD has no clue.
I have to tell you though, Ripper fucking reminds me of old school "Me Against The World" era Lizzy Borden.
Interesting analysis, I hear it on certain parts now..
I have all of Lizzy's shit by the way.
I am worshipping "Waterloo" off of the latest IE so far.
JayKeeley
Be still, O wand'rer!
My my, in Waterloo, Napolean did surrender,
Yeah yeah!
Which version is better - Iced Earth's or ABBA's?
Yeah yeah!
Which version is better - Iced Earth's or ABBA's?
JayKeeley
Be still, O wand'rer!
It's those Swedes! They're just so good at everything! Melodic Death Metal from Gothenburg, Yngwie J Malmsteen, ABBA, some kind of cellphone technology, and classic 70's porn.
Well, in that case, I'd say it is definitely 1 for the Americans!! Waterloo is a fucking good reason to buy the deluxe edition.
MadeInNewJersey
nursing my wounds
It was immediate to me upon first listen to "Declaration Day," one of my early faves off the album FWIW. Really like "The Reckoning," "Red Baron" and "Waterloo" as well.Papa Josh said:Interesting analysis, I hear it on certain parts now..
I have all of Lizzy's shit by the way.
I am worshipping "Waterloo" off of the latest IE so far.
"Gettysburg" should have been released by itself. It's almost too much to swallow! Hey, did anyone get the single CD version? I'm just curious if the liner notes are the same as they are in the 2-CD digipack. Reading the explanation behing the musical passages in "Gettysburg" is fucking cool as shit.
MadeInNewJersey
nursing my wounds
BTW, I just right this very second decided that the guitar riffing that kicks in during "Gettysburg's" part 2, after Ripper says "...if I ever draw my sword on you, may the good Lord strike me dead..." is
TEH FUCKING SHIT
TEH FUCKING SHIT
JayKeeley
Be still, O wand'rer!
So now that you guys have heard Ripper singing for Iced Earth, how do you think it's going to work with him singing the earlier Barlow stuff? Some of those vocal lines are extremely difficult - songs like "Wolf" or "My Own Saviour" are impossible to imagine without Barlow, no?
Having said that, I can imagine him doing a really good job with "Melancholy (Holy Martyr)", "The Hunter", "Blessed Are You", and a whole bunch of others now that I think about it!!! It'll be interesting to see them live this April.
Having said that, I can imagine him doing a really good job with "Melancholy (Holy Martyr)", "The Hunter", "Blessed Are You", and a whole bunch of others now that I think about it!!! It'll be interesting to see them live this April.
General Zod
Ruler of Australia
Some thoughts on comments made in this thread...
The new Iced Earth is phenomenal. Had it been released two weeks earlier, it would have been my #1 CD of 2003.
Ripper does an excellent job. He's far better than I thought he would be. However, if you think he's better than Barlow, I'd like know if you were born with no ears or if they were lost in some sort of bizarre industrial accident. If it's the latter, I'd love to see before and after pictures.
Barlow sounds as much like Paul Stanley as Barry Manilow sounds like Lemmy.
Nevermore sounds like Iced Earth? Warrell couldn't sound less like Matt or Tim. Van's drumming is nothing short of jaw-dropping. The drumming in IE, even with the addition of Richard, has always been average at best. Loomis' lead work is integral to what Nevermore does. IE's solos are an after thought. Jon's rythms are, more often than not, based on triplets. Jeff almost never uses triplets. Their lyrical content is worlds apart.
Zod
The new Iced Earth is phenomenal. Had it been released two weeks earlier, it would have been my #1 CD of 2003.
Ripper does an excellent job. He's far better than I thought he would be. However, if you think he's better than Barlow, I'd like know if you were born with no ears or if they were lost in some sort of bizarre industrial accident. If it's the latter, I'd love to see before and after pictures.
Barlow sounds as much like Paul Stanley as Barry Manilow sounds like Lemmy.
Nevermore sounds like Iced Earth? Warrell couldn't sound less like Matt or Tim. Van's drumming is nothing short of jaw-dropping. The drumming in IE, even with the addition of Richard, has always been average at best. Loomis' lead work is integral to what Nevermore does. IE's solos are an after thought. Jon's rythms are, more often than not, based on triplets. Jeff almost never uses triplets. Their lyrical content is worlds apart.
Zod
JayKeeley
Be still, O wand'rer!
'Gugs played me some more of the new IE in the car yesterday. I have to admit, it does sound really good, especially the second CD. It sounds like it's the sort of thing that you could listen to 50 times and still hear something new each time. The production is amazing, although I'd like to hear it again on a proper hi-fi just for those cannon blasts!
I'm not sure if there is a rhythm guitarist alive who can match that staccato riffing speed that Schaffer plays - it's like his wrist is attached to a hydraulic drill or something. It sounds like he's better than ever on this new album (although I doubt if he could ever play faster than the riffing on "Heaven Denies" on D&W.)
I'm not sure if there is a rhythm guitarist alive who can match that staccato riffing speed that Schaffer plays - it's like his wrist is attached to a hydraulic drill or something. It sounds like he's better than ever on this new album (although I doubt if he could ever play faster than the riffing on "Heaven Denies" on D&W.)
JayKeeley
Be still, O wand'rer!
So those orchestral songs on the new Iced Earth really are pretty cool. What is that, a 70 piece orchestra they're playing with?
Anyway, surely one of the best songs of the year thus far: "The Devil To Pay".
Anyway, surely one of the best songs of the year thus far: "The Devil To Pay".
JayKeeley
Be still, O wand'rer!
Bump.
I don't know how to rate this album. I really think Disc One is average, but Disc Two (Gettysburg) is just phenomenal. With all that orchestration going on, the headphones become mandatory, and it becomes some of the best 30 minutes Iced Earth have ever put together.
I don't know how to rate this album. I really think Disc One is average, but Disc Two (Gettysburg) is just phenomenal. With all that orchestration going on, the headphones become mandatory, and it becomes some of the best 30 minutes Iced Earth have ever put together.
