If Mort Divine ruled the world

[Einherjar86]

It's not a contradiction, it's just entirely baseless. There's no way you can measure that, and ultimately - from the perspective of pure contingency - they're equally vulnerable. Privileging one over the other is an ideological move, not a critical one.

 

[Dak]

I could counter that if one were to adopt a sort of noncommittal position, that perspective of "pure" contingency and "equality of vulnerability" also sounds like an uncritical, ideological maneuver.

 

[Einherjar86]

That's weak. The way I see it, the evidence is scarce for either position. Lacking enough support, I think it makes more sense to treat both physiological and technological adaptations on an equal footing, rather than arbitrarily privilege one over the other.

 

[CiG]

That's fine, I won't try and convince you of it beyond sharing my experience.

The day after the election, I opened my class up to discussion about Trump's victory and basically just let them talk. Most of them were upset, some vehemently so. One student ventured a comment that he understood why a lot of people felt the way they did, but that the entire election atmosphere was confusing and disorienting because of how much doubt had been cast on the media, and that a lot of journalists seem to unabashedly favor Clinton. I told him that was a good point and that ultimately the media falls victim to the same ideological tendencies we all exhibit.

After that class I received an email from him thanking me for opening the class to discussion and making it a calm, level environment in which to talk about those issues.

Being familiar with my colleagues and their mentality, within and beyond Boston, I don't really think I'm in a minority over here.

How do you think it would have went if someone expressed happiness for Trump winning? Did anybody?

see, that's the problem. it's all been said. it's just down to your worldview. keep feeding into these twitter and youtube trolls just trying to use you for a buck/notoreity if you think anything noteworthy has been said about gender in the last couple years

I don't even use Twitter and the only Youtube account I follow with any regularity is Vernaculis.

It's not a matter of saying something noteworthy on gender to begin with. You're lost.

 

[Einherjar86]

How do you think it would have went if someone expressed happiness for Trump winning? Did anybody?

Nobody did. And I'm sure that others would have expressed their distaste.

 

[Oblivious Maximus]

 

[no country for old wainds]

holy shit, our worst fears realised

 

[Oblivious Maximus]

 

[CiG]

LGBTQMARX+

 

[Baroque]

not gonna lie I lol'd at this.

I get where these people are coming from but they need to stop being babies about it.

 

[Dak]

 

[Einherjar86]

A picture of one man sweeping. Compelling.

Also, this sign makes the point better:

 

[Dak]

Well the trash is pretty appalling. How hard is it to take a sign with you? Of course this is what it looks like after almost any sort of public event regardless of those in attendance, but I thought women were so much more conscientious etc. etc. And it is true that men make up the overwhelming majority of municipal waste management crews:

http://amarillo.com/opinion/opinion...-04-22/equality-means-female-trash-collectors

According to 2010 BLS data, the following jobs contain 1 percent or less female workers: boilermakers, brick masonry, stonemasonry, septic tank servicing, sewer pipe cleaners and trash collectors. By contrast, women are 97 percent of preschool and kindergarten teachers, 80 percent of social workers, 82 percent of librarians and 92 percent of dietitians and nutritionists and registered nurses.

Better sign re: guns to be sure, but I'm not sure how the GOP funds guns.

 

[CiG]

@Einherjar86

No that's even more retarded, and yes I'm sure if you panned out you'd see entire teams of women cleaning up the trash, because we all know women dominate the refuse industries...

 

[Einherjar86]

@Einherjar86

No that's even more retarded, and yes I'm sure if you panned out you'd see entire teams of women cleaning up the trash, because we all know women dominate the refuse industries...

It's actually less retarded, less... but nice try.

The point isn't that the GOP funds guns, but that it allocates funds to regulate reproductive rights.

 

[CiG]

The whole gun v uterus thing is just totally embarrassing to me. I wouldn't even want to be near someone as stupid and cringeworthy as to make such a miserably ridiculous comparison.

Women have more rights than men, let alone a fucking gun. [sigh]

 

[Einherjar86]

The whole gun v uterus thing is just totally embarrassing to me. I wouldn't even want to be near someone as stupid and cringeworthy as to make such a miserably ridiculous comparison.

Need a safe space there, champ?

Women have more rights than men

This is some pure, unadulterated bullshit.

 

[-CC-]

That camera guy knew he had gold on his hands well before it started screaming.

 

[Dak]

This is some pure, unadulterated bullshit.

I don't know about more "rights", but they do have the upper hand in divorce proceedings and DV cases. They certainly don't have "less" rights.

 

[Einherjar86]

I will, at the very least, entertain that premise. I'm still not sure I buy it, but then for me the entire notion of rights, how you measure them, what they constitute (e.g. freedom to vs. freedom from), etc. conjures a mostly indiscernible, and sometimes purely rhetorical, quagmire.

To say that social justice favors feminism is far more agreeable, certainly; but that's not to say that feminism's values have yet circulated through our culture at large, which is why feminists are still fighting. It makes sense that the legal system is one of the first arenas in which we see changes taking place. Bear in mind that in divorce proceedings women used to have virtually no chances whatsoever.