In Flames - Come Clarity bass sound

[KillDivision]

M-80 video's:

 

[Ermz]

It's weird. On those videos the MXR sounds like shit. Would they run it into an amp/cab to dull off the harshness, or is it all taken care of with post-EQ?

 

[Sly]

The MXR sounds exactly like in Flames does. You have to try it with an amp/cab, or sometimes I use it in parallel to a DI with filtered mids (800 Hz - 5k)

 

[LeSedna]

They're hard to find online, PM not sent. I hope you don't have VLC or Audacity.

Hello mr Epic Box. I don't want a PM either, I'm not interested.

I remember digging this album from the first second, which is rare actually. "Take this life" is such a "hit", I was blown away, and went into the CD easily. The sound is indeed one of the main reasons. I loved how there is no empty space in those mixes, there is always some airy ambiant stuff added over the whole instrument mixes to make the whole picture sound huge.

Also Dead End @ 2:06 = epic solo, too bad it ends abruptly

 

[Ermz]

Might be cool to try the MXR into Bass Amp Room or something similar. I've had success doing that with the PSA-1. Rounds off the tone and gets rid of the shitty mids more or less on the grit tracks.

I just checked into Peter Iwers' signature bass again, and it's Maple/Bubinga... that's going to be some fairly bright stuff. I'm starting to second guess my desire to get an Ash/Bubinga bass.

 

[~BURNY~]

Might be cool to try the MXR into Bass Amp Room or something similar. I've had success doing that with the PSA-1. Rounds off the tone and gets rid of the shitty mids more or less on the grit tracks.

Get rid of that PSA-1 piece of shit and get the BDDI. Seriously.

Sorry for the OT.

Edit:
Ok now I look like an idiot for saying this.

 

[kev]

One of my favourite bass tones ever in a mix. I'm imaging whatever distortion box you stick peter through he will beat the shit out of his bass so much it wont matter though.

 

[LeSedna]

Just listened to the stems, and it's fun how the solo-ed bass sounds like muddy shit with grit on it. It's even hard to distinguish some notes. I guess the whole frequency picture and the grit is the main thing that give the overall mix picture that impressive aspect.

 

[kev]

It sounds like shit by itself for sure.

 

[Mikaël-ange]

Bergstrand bass:

Scarve session:

Aqme session:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9zf0l_aqme-en-studio-episode-iv_music

 

[Ben Johnson]

I thought I was pretty good at the internetz, but I can't find the multitrack anywhere.

 

[Ascendant]

Listened to Take this life for the first time in 4 years and daym dad, that's one tight, grinding bass. Instant favourite bass tone ever, don't want the stems at all, I believe I know where to find them but that site is down for a while it seems.

 

[LeSedna]

I wouldn't call it "tight". It may be tightly played but the result is really muddy. It blends well with the scooped guitars, and the grit is incredibly glueing things together.

 

[Ascendant]

Tight playing, grindy tone, simple.

 

[UtopianCrux]

Here's one with the guitars and vox snipped at the beginning. It is indeed a good bit in the fret-thraky playing, tough I still contend that a good chunk of it it where that distorted track is pocketed at EQ-wise.

 

[NicholasDWolfwood]

Perhaps my ears are deceiving me, but to me it sounds like there's also a second track (perhaps the DI smashed to pieces?) along with the gritty track. I've always loved this bass tone, and even though Iwers' playing is somewhat simplistic, it's still an absolutely amazing tone.

 

[ahjteam]

not the same album, but hope it helps:

http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/andy-sneap/428031-track-track-flames-sense-purpose.html

 

[UtopianCrux]

^

Track 25-28: Bass

RL: The codeword was tractor, and if you listen to channel 28 thats what it sounds like. Here is the Ampeg 8x10 cab with an SM57, one channel AKG 414 plus the split line signal. The mic channels are kinda distorted but if you put the tractor down it glues really good with the guitars. It amazed me how strong the bass can be. It really lifted the guitars. (See the end of the post for more information on the bass)

Also, regarding the bass, it was tracked with an Ibanez SR-1005 into an Ampeg SVT3 Pro with a SVT cab. The line signal went through a MXR Dime Distortion and then to an Ashdown head, which "really only amplified the distortion" and then into a 1x12 isocab miced with an SM57. That signal was then processed though a API 560 to "thin the distortion a bit, so that it wouldn't interfere with the sound of the cab."

When Mr. Laghi was asked if he didn't think that this was a bit over ambitious, he replied "It is, but it's necessary." So if you're tracking bass with just a DI with a SansAmp or something, just kill yourself right away!

Interesting... Inspired by this thread, I've been tweaking my dirt channel trying to get closer to that guttural grind, and I came pretty close to this with modelers pulling off a clone of the DI track, going into a distortion (RAT) then a pretty dirty head (Flip Top, drive max'd) and what was a 1x15 emulation. Dropped that to the 1x12 and, yeah... seems to be a big component in narrowing down the distorted channel into the right pocket... or the tractor factor.

My "clean" channel is a blend of the bass DI and similar Ampeg setup, again, like above with a little bit off grit from the amp there too, but still mostly clean.

I'm not quite there yet, so the experiment continues.

 

[Ermz]

Cool, so running the distortion track into an amp sim of sorts seems necessary, if a real amp isn't available. Bass Amp Room tends to be pretty good for this. I'll try running the Sansamp into it, and maybe grab one of the Dunlop pedals for more options.

 

[AllanD]

I'm wondering how he pulls the tone off live, it still sounds evil as hell.


[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1hasUkKHsU&feature=related[/ame]

Not my favorite song, but the bass is singled out at :27.