Iormundr

[Brainkisser]

"Today he'll draw his final breath
The wisest God of all
His son will avenge his death
Iormundr's brother will fall"
-Down the Slopes of Death

I've been wondering who Iornumdr is. I've looked in 3 books on norse myth, and several websites, but haven't found anything.

I'm thinking now maybe it's Jormungand, the Midgard Serpent. His brother is Fenrir, who kills Odin.

So basically, do you agree that Iormundr = Jormungand or is it something else?

 

[Belgar]

I could be wrong but in Icelandic Jormundr = mighty one was one of the many name associated with Odin. Odin's name had many different meanings for centuries and also had different phonetic roots and spellings and not only associated with the god of war as many tend to believe, as far as the descriptive name goes. Here AA uses a "I" and not "J" so it could have a different meaning. ea the Alemanic used Vut = master of fury, Frisian used weda and Anglo-Saxon used wodan ... all related to the name of the god of war or here they call him the master of fury.

 

[Surtr]

Iormundr is a big sea-snake, who surrounds Midgard. Its Father is Loki, who is also father of Hel (Dead-goddess) and Fenris, a big wolf, who kills Odin at Ragnarok. Odins son Widar will punish Fenris for that.
Iormundr will fight against Thor at Ragnarok. Thor can smash Iormundr with his famous hammer, but he will die by the poison of Iormundr.

 

[Surtr]

besides, Belgar: even with a J its a snake ;-)
But you're right, Odin has many Names:at least 45! Jormundr isn't under them...

 

[Thrymfal]

i was always told it was jormungand

 

[Belgar]

besides, Belgar: even with a J its a snake ;-)
But you're right, Odin has many Names:at least 45! Jormundr isn't under them...

I am pretty sure it is. In Icelandic it is. and refered like I said to the mighty one. You say 45, there is much more. Over 100+ i could send you the list if you like with the way it evolved from old Norse thru different languages and dialects. But again since there are so many names for Odin, maybe the name in Icelandic has nothing to do with the snake.

 

[spaffe]

"Today he'll draw his final breath
The wisest God of all
His son will avenge his death
Iormundr's brother will fall"
-Down the Slopes of Death

well it has to be the midgard serpent (jormungandr) even though it's spelled so oddly, perhaps it's just a typo. otherwise it wont make any sense with the lyrics: odin's son will avenge him after odin is killed by fenriz who is jormungandr's brother.

 

[Surtr]

question in vocabulary: what's the difference between serpent and snake??

 

[Brainkisser]

question in vocabulary: what's the difference between serpent and snake??

Not much as far as I know, except serpent can usually refer to a much larger critter as well as small ones.

 

[burning creation]

Fun Fact: the day of the week "Wednesday" was taken from Wodan/Woden aka Odin.


Serpent is more or less the same thing as a snake only when people say Serpent they are almost always refering to mythology of some sort.

 

[Gleemonex]

well. i neither see Jormundur in the name list for the Edda nor the Poetic Edda, so my vote is on the Midgard serpent, i.e. according to the context.

Jörmundur means jör: battle and mundur: protection or gift. (at least, the icelandic name does)

question in vocabulary: what's the difference between serpent and snake??

shall i complicate matters even further, just to tease? *impish grin*
In the icelandic version of nordic mythology, the term of "worm" for snake/serpent is also used quite a bit.

 

[iAMtheblackwizards]

question in vocabulary: what's the difference between serpent and snake??

Serpent can also give off the implication that aside from being larger than a snake, is also associated with water some way.

 

[Pyaemia]

Well i read that Wednesday means "Odin's day" or "Wodan's day" that Thursday means "Thor's day" that Tuesday means "Tyr's day" and that Friday means "Frigg's day" or "Freya's day" (cant recall)

 

[Surtr]

Well i read that Wednesday means "Odin's day" or "Wodan's day" that Thursday means "Thor's day" that Tuesday means "Tyr's day" and that Friday means "Frigg's day" or "Freya's day" (cant recall)

..And Monday??

 

[Gleemonex]

..And Monday??

"Moon"day or "Mánadagur".

 

[CyR1c]

Well i read that Wednesday means "Odin's day" or "Wodan's day" that Thursday means "Thor's day" that Tuesday means "Tyr's day" and that Friday means "Frigg's day" or "Freya's day" (cant recall)

Well it maybe it will help...you right..

These things are tought here to youngsters on school.. its a heritage to know where the names of the week come from..nowadays everyone thinks there from Sesamestreet !!

 

[M.]

he sure is right, pretty cool that bits from that culture are still prevalent in modern western society.