Is Vintersorg Pro-White/Nazi?

luguber, actually the theory of aryans descencing from the polar region has some evidence today even among serious scientists! you might know the story about quezacoatel and the south american indians who spoke about visitors with light skin hair and eyes! i read an article about atlantis recently and it was in a seriouspaper, not some nazi writings! and i do think it does make some sence! where do you think blond and blue eyes people come from then? how would they evolve from blacks in just a few thousend years (and we know germanic tribes allready looked quite the same as today when the roman writer germanicus described them)? we know that if a black mixes with a blond white, the dark features allways prevail in the child, it has dark eyes and hair, even if the white parent had light! so how would the fair aryans evolved from blacks in such a short time? well, i don't know if the atlantis theory is true and i know it is missused by nazis to claim racial superiory! but to say it's crap is no point! it might be true, yet it doesn't mean that whites are the superior race because of this! science knows no politics!
 
Originally posted by Lordenlil
C'mon. We're at the Vintersorg forum. Most of the ppl here are
fans, and respect Vintersorg. If he said something crazy, I'm sure
people would react to it.
I speak for myself: I've brought forth images of him, avatar, and
messed around with the new album... all as jokes. You know, he
could easily react to all the crap I've said and done in here. And I
know that. But personally I am pro music, and no matter if mr. V
told me to shut up (don't think he ever would, though) I'd _still_
like his music. So I have no problem saying I agree or disagree
with him. This is stupid, even my lousy jokes are better than all
this "Ow - you're licking Mr. V's ass" -stuff I've seen lately. Hey, I
must be a major ass-licker because I made those images of him.

In the end, I respect him as an artist ('cause I don't know him as
a person. AND as an artist he does the clever thing of making
only short replies that makes sense, so usually it's quite easy to
agree. In most cases he doesn't reply, which is also a wise
decision. So THERE!)

Well said! :)
I totally agree on your point of view...
 
If you can refer me to a black metal band who is not waving the inverted pentagram banner while dressed like an over made-up tart on Bourbon Street and ignorantly claiming to be Pagan/Heathen or one that is not flying the christian banner then I would be more than happy to check into them and see what they have to say with their music. But most of what I have seen and heard so far are nothing more than trend bitches or worshippers of that asshole who's rotting in a Norwegian prison. Please, show me something different. Show me real people, not goth club poser rejects or wannabes. It would be totally worth it to find even just one band who is not like the mainstream of that genre.


I was not talking about the reverse pentagram but black metal bands that call themselves pagan and link it to nazism, let's not mix the things here Alisson. Most of black metal bands are satanism even though I am not satanism I LOVE the music. YOu might want to check OperaIX you know but you seem to have too much prejuidices on BM to even want to try to like the music.
When the heck did I talk about goth ???!!! Goth have nothing to do with black metal!

This is why I stop posting and reading on this board, most of the time poeple misunderstand when I say or reply with a smart ass useless comment.

Anyhow
I am off for good!
 
oh and Fleischwolf hair and skullshape include what I said I meant physically it means the same when you really think about it. The body is different but the soul is the same...
 
Thank you Fleischwolf. I knew you would not give an ignorant reply. :)

Originally posted by Fjelltussa

Do you know mostly politicians in USA then? Because to claim that every politician is corrupt is to take it too far............It is not possible to be very corrupt here, because everything is too small. Too open. And I don't think many here really find the need, or see the point in being corrupt. Still there are serois politicians and less serious ones.

There are an incredible lot of blackmetal bands around, and you can hardly know of all, so to say that all of them twists the heathen symbols and meaning, is hardly anything you can know for sure.

You seem to dislike ppl who judge quite a bit, but still you judge yourself............


You seem to have overlooked something I wrote...........
"I'm just speaking as I find along my perpetual fact-finding mission called life. Ther's no better way to learn than from others, so teach me. "

Speaking as I FIND, after looking into and observing things. Not speaking off the top of my head and not bothering to find out anything first. if i don't know something I have no problem saying so.

Do YOU know more about politicians inside USA? Do you live here? Politicians in your country may very well be different and that would be great if they are, but I don't know anything about the politicians of your country and won't presume to comment on them. Again, read my comment carefully. You like politicians, I don't. I accept your opinion so please accept mine.

Do you know every black metal band in existence? I know I certainly don't. Again, see my comment. I speak as I find from what I have seen and what has been shown to me. And I recall also asking for referrals to black metal bands who are not like all the ones I have been shown. Do you know of any? Please tell me who they are. Show me something different. I am on a fact-finding mission. I would love nothing better than to be proven wrong on this because that would mean that there IS hope.

And it seems that you are doing a fair bit of judging yourself, and rather blindly I'd say.

"YOu might want to check OperaIX you know but you seem to have too much prejuidices on BM to even want to try to like the music."

Nattestid, thank you for the referral. :) I WILL check them out but I don't appreciate you telling me what my opinion of them will be before I hear them. You apparently overlooked my comment as well. But it's no big deal, I understand.
 
Originally posted by Nattestid
oh and Fleischwolf hair and skullshape include what I said I meant physically it means the same when you really think about it. The body is different but the soul is the same...

yeah, i know what you mean, but fortunatly the souls of a zulu warrior and a wall street yuppie are not the same!
 
@ Alisson
And it seems that you are doing a fair bit of judging yourself, and rather blindly I'd say. What do you mean blindly?! What I said about prejuidices was not about opera9 but bm in general.




Do you know every black metal band in existence? I know I certainly don't. Again, see my comment. I speak as I find from what I have seen and what has been shown to me. And I recall also asking for referrals to black metal bands who are not like all the ones I have been shown. Do you know of any?

Of course I don't know all of the black metal bands but I know quite a few that are not dorkish like Varg. Like I mentioned OperaIX, Thyrfing, Valhalla,Einjerher,( don't remember how to spell it hehe) Corvus Corax, Trollech,Manegarm.
 
Originally posted by Lordenlil


But (by coincidence) I'm not totally agreeing with your latest post,
V-man (excerpt) ".... so we shouldn't have the right to decide the
future of the planet, we all know how that goes, right?"
I don't completely agree. Because we are ALSO a product
of 'cosmos' (the system of the universe) if u will. We are a result.
We were _made_ og 'given' this right in one way or the other.
I hate what we've done to this planes as much as anybody, and I
focus mostly on my own life. But seeing things in a really big
perspective, we have done NOTHING to cosmos, we are NOTHING
in that perspective. In the end we are a natural cause, but still
we're a precious form of life it seems. But who's to blame for
humans being selfish and destructive? (No divine stuff discussed
here.. nonono.)

Assuming we had no political systems, if human spread like flies
and so on. Well, that wouldn't be much of a society either. It
would be chaos, and why would everything be better that way?
We could've kept the earth perfect until the sun dies etc... for what
achievement? But of course, there are ways in between, but
obviously this is NOT how the Earth evolved..

These two things were very well put, and I agree with it. (I couldn't have put it better myself, Lordenlil: :D :p )
 
@Allison: I'm not entirely sure about what you wrote to who here, but anyway. I didn't say anything about either liking or disliking politicians. I don't know many. And the few I know, I either like or dislike as persons; their politics are smth else, and I may or may not like it. But I don't think "politicians" in general are corrupt. Some may be, as any may be.
No, I don't live in the US (as says my locations), nor do I know much about any of them, still I can hardly believe all of them are bad persons. I don't think anyone is. Not anyone. Think what you may about that, but that is how I think. I would keep apart being a bad person from dis/agreeing with someones opinions. For instance: I don't know much about president Bush, but from what I do know, I don't agree with his opinions, or like his politics. But I have no right whatsoever to judge HIM. I don't know him, but I'm sure he can be a nice guy to his family and friends.
I do absolutely respect your opinions. Expressing my own has nothing to do with either respecting or disrespecting your or any other persons opinions.
And (to me) - respecting has nothing to do with agreeing/liking or disagreeing/disliking.
 
Originally posted by Fleischwolf


Nattestid, to say that skincolor is the only difference between races is a little too simple! you think you couldn't tell a black african from a white if he had just white skin? the skullshape, the face, hair all is different!


hmmm... Actually if you want to be more correct in this matter...skullshape varies from person to person... But who cares really? I think her point was just that ppl are all the same inside...cut someone, and they bleed red like the rest of the population. (I'm talking humans here...I know animals *mostly* bleed red too). :lol: Who give's a flyin' fuck if someone's hair is different anyhow? I'm as white as one can possibly get...but come humid weather, I develope an affro that could put ANYone else's to shame! :lol:
 
I hardly get tanned at all. There are differences, there are no way around that, but so what?! The differences is what's so beautiful! And either you call it different races, or not; what does it matter what you call it? What's in a name (to put it like that)? It's still the same, no matter what.
 
Exactly what IS in a name? It's quite true that there are differences in every culture...and what's beautiful? I think these differences ARE what's beautiful. I think all people are beautiful in their own way. (I think I'd make a good hippie having said that). :lol:
 
when you start separate humanity in diffrent races you're strongly dividing people in diffrent separated regions, as if the regions and diffrent locations would be a problem?. I just see every living man/woman as a very unique creature that have the potentional to evolve an progress into what is the most suitable form for them. We're too narrow-minded , we blame fools and persons that don't have the same thinking to be insane, or worse we lock them up, or even kill them. That's where the contradiction lies, to get ridd of people that we don' like to feel good/safe. Fuck if everybody had a strong tolerance we woud live in a much more friendly place, I don't say that we should ignore possible terrorist, but that violence will always feed new violence. But you all know this,right? But still we have very progressive warists, they fight violence with violence which are just the opposite of thinking and intelligence. I just Hate violent actions...It's just so stone age....

Thinking should rule over instinct!!

Guess what, mr Misantophe is soon to be banned.


mr V
 
No. it's very not. As I said we should have a very high tolerance with statements and ideas, but when someone make conflicts just for the sake of it, we have to put our feet to the ground and make it clear that it's not acceptable to be a troubblemaker. And having and alias as Misathrope and then be on the internet chatting with people all day long is just bizarre, isn't it. The whole concept with Misatrophy is just the opposite, right?

I just wants this board to stand serious and informative, this isn't a channel for personal wars.
 
Velya is a rather benign personality of Misanthrope's, he's used it before (back in January, during the whole 'Coming of the Beast' episode on the Opeth forum ;)). Just seems alot of people have either forgotten about that time (wise choice), or are too new to know about it (such as Thornie :))....
 
Yes, I agree. I also think this so called "wealthsociety" would have worked out better if everyone just were a bit more nicer to each other...
But that seems to be pretty hard..