Isolation Cabs

[everybody's x]

No it doesn't sound horrible. A 57 reacts differently in an enclosed space, so you may find yourself micing it differently. Dealing with the proximity effect differently etc. You may eq it differently than you would. I mean it is like anything else, you adapt to the terrain you're in
Condensors actually sound pretty good in it, but to me it is just weird micing a celestion with a condensor, it's my own hang up lol

 

[Radd]

Got it. Your clips and replys are almost enough to make me think it is the way to go for me at the moment. I'll have to look into the impulse thing some more though before I jump into anything.
Thanks.

 

[Genius Gone Insane]

I am reamping guitars at 2:30 in the morning with a cranked marshall head in my basement. My wife is upstairs asleep. My neighbors are oblivious. Life is good. Is it ideal? No, is it useful? Definitely

Is it really that quiet?

 

[everybody's x]

It pushes back about 60 db's you can still hear it but not over my monitoring levels which are fairly low.

 

[Genius Gone Insane]

How about the low end rumble? Does the house shake?

 

[marcust]

Is it really that quiet?

it's not that quiet no night sessions that's for sure or maybe if you use
a powersoak or something you're fine
the problem with the isocab is you have a good head like say a 5150 and
the result is some guy saying "hey you recorded a pod" cause that's what it sounds like to me

 

[everybody's x]

How about the low end rumble? Does the house shake?

Nah they cant even hear it upstairs

Now today Im reamping my greenback 4x12 and that is definitely disturbing the neighbors

 

[Kazrog]

The clips are intriguing, x. Thanks for this. Do you own or have access to an Audix i5 ?

 

[Genius Gone Insane]

The clips are intriguing, x. Thanks for this. Do you own or have access to an Audix i5 ?

Yes...In fact X, it would be killer if you could A/B a 57 and a condenser...would love to hear the difference there.

 

[everybody's x]

Kaz and Genius; I don't have an i5, I do have 2 57's, 4 58's, 10 545's, one with the tranny removed, 2 md421's, audix D6 and an SM7 for dynamics

I can throw an AT4033 on the speaker tomorrow night and post it, i've been curious about a PZM too

 

[Genius Gone Insane]

That would be killer.

 

[Radd]

That would be killer.

Yes that would be quite killer indeed.
I'm curious to hear how a 609 or 906 sounds with it since one review said this from that link:

"I began having trouble geting a good tone with a Shure SM-57. I know that this is supposed to be the greatest amp mic around, but it wasn't working for me. I decided to purchase a Sennhieser 906e guitar cab mic. I was blown away! The randall cab with this mic gives me a huge sound."

 

[stringy_]

For what it's worth, here's some other alternatives to the Randall:

http://www.vocalbooth.com/products/ampboxes.html
VocalBooth 412 Isolation Box ~$995 MSRP (I have no idea what street is). You throw the entire cab in this thing, plus your mic stand and mics. Every review I've seen is very positive.

http://www.demeteramps.com/products/cabinets/ssc1.html
Demeter SSC-1 w/Celestion V30 $750 street. Quite similar to the Randall, but reviews say it's better constructed.

http://www.jlhproducts.com/axetrak/
AxeTrak $399 street. This one uses a specially designed microphone and speaker. Haven't heard much about it...

I have no experience with any of these products, just wanted to let ya' guys know there are other options out there.

 

[everybody's x]

picking up some capsule buzz on the sennheiser maybe

 

[everybody's x]

OK, did a little noodling tonight
there are four files
one track w/md421
one track w/at4033
one track w/PZM
one track w/everything
titles are self explanatory

http://www.allcapsrecording.com/media/iso_cab_all_in.wav
http://www.allcapsrecording.com/media/iso_cab_at4033.wav
http://www.allcapsrecording.com/media/iso_cab_pzm.wav
http://www.allcapsrecording.com/media/iso_cab_md421.wav

I was most impressed with the PZM myself

 

[everybody's x]

if it matters chain is les paul>triple xxx> iso cab V30>md421
>pzm
>at4033>sountracs topaz>motu 2408>24/48k

all phase coherent

 

[kaomao]

For what it's worth, here's some other alternatives to the Randall:

http://www.jlhproducts.com/axetrak/
AxeTrak $399 street. This one uses a specially designed microphone and speaker. Haven't heard much about it...

Here are the clips, totally shitty sounding IMO.

 

[stringy_]

Here are the clips, totally shitty sounding IMO.

Lol! Yeah, that they are. I didn't see those on their site. Do the makers of that thing even LISTEN to what they recorded?

 

[everybody's x]

wow! those are a joke

 

[Radd]

OK, did a little noodling tonight
there are four files
one track w/md421
one track w/at4033
one track w/PZM
one track w/everything
titles are self explanatory

http://www.allcapsrecording.com/media/iso_cab_all_in.wav
http://www.allcapsrecording.com/media/iso_cab_at4033.wav
http://www.allcapsrecording.com/media/iso_cab_pzm.wav
http://www.allcapsrecording.com/media/iso_cab_md421.wav

I was most impressed with the PZM myself

Cool. Thanks for this!