JEFF LOOMIS SIG GUITAR!!!!!!!
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i kinda like the fact that jeff decided on a maple board for his sig guitar....seems to be a very uncommon thing nowadays, and i personally think that maple fretboards are GREAT. the maple board ibanez rg 5xx series are some of the coolest guitars ever.
on the other hand, i was hoping for a fixed bridge....i just hate the way a FR guitar feels and plays, plus it's much easier and convenient to change strings on a fixed bridge guitar....but then again, it's his sig, not mine
maybe we're going to hear some crazy ass vibrato shit on his solo record? 
on the other hand, i was hoping for a fixed bridge....i just hate the way a FR guitar feels and plays, plus it's much easier and convenient to change strings on a fixed bridge guitar....but then again, it's his sig, not mine
maybe we're going to hear some crazy ass vibrato shit on his solo record? 
LSD-Studio
HCAF crusher
yeah, to me it feels like playing on a fucking piano upside down...
just feels "wrong" to me..
i might get used to it if i wasn't that much of an ignorant...
guitars have 6 strings.period.
Aaron Smith
Envisage Audio
Only the first 200 are going to have the Floyd Rose, everything after that will have a fixed bridge.
kaomao
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Why? I don't get this.
They should leave the option to choose between fixed or floyd, varying the price maybe.
They should leave the option to choose between fixed or floyd, varying the price maybe.
Ben Johnson
SSSSSSSSSSSSSS
I'm constantly checking my volume knob, to see if it's full up. It's really turned into an OCD thing.
Heh heh. Me too. Play a riff, check the volume knob, repeat.
Hmm...now that I recall I played a C1 at Guitar Center, and it was godawful.
WeeFace
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Heh heh. Me too. Play a riff, check the volume knob, repeat.
Why don't you guys just take it out? Even full up it's going to be bleeding some power and bite off your signal. replace with a mute switch
There's a thought then... does anyone here other than me use their volume control?
Tone pots are lame.I hate accidently turning the volume down while picking, so I get it out of the way. Like Paul Gilbert's Ibanez'. I'm constantly checking my volume knob, to see if it's full up. It's really turned into an OCD thing.
No shit, same here. that why i hate my Strat. i rewired all my guitars with 1 vol, and a PU switch. eventually i want a Push-Push pot like on the Caparisons.
Looks like a really nice design
Can you elaborate on this?
I was also curious to know if anyone's played a long scale guitar before. I always wanted to try a 7 string with a gibson scale neck.
I used to be all into tinkering with knobs all of the time... that's why my legato got where it was, my hands played with the pots more than the strings. A while ago I decided to just try varying the way I played with my fingers and the way I hit with the pick (or hammered-on, if I wasn't picking) and since then I've found that with whatever I'm playing I'm better off just holding the strings and picking differently than relying on the knobs to get where I want to be - the tone knob never got rid of the stuff I didn't like, it just made me sound like I was under a blanket, and I never felt right using the volume knob to play quieter because the tone was what I wanted to vary (and a loud picked note sounds like a loud picked note at whatever volume, that tonality needs to vary, and not apparent loudness).
I dislike the implication that I'm an ignorant cretin for not using two little fucking knobs that alter the tone electronically and instead favoring tone changes through the way I'm playing, I don't even have the fuckers in when I've set up my guitar the way I want it - in any situation they're bleeding a little bit of power and treble out and I can't stand it (it's basic electronics; the current I is going to be the voltage V divided by the resistance R, so unless you have something with infinite resistance you're dropping a little current [or treble, in the tone pot]) so I just yank out the knobs and put in a kill switch to drop the signal completely. This isn't a matter of metalheads being lazy slobs who are too stupid to understand the wonders of capacitance and varying resistance in an audio circuit, and I'd consider people who depend (not use, but depend) on knobs to twiddle with for changes in their tone to be much worse off than someone who can grab a note in a different way and get the sound changes he needs. I officially fucking hate volume and tone knobs.
That aside: WSW, I can't tell what you mean - you say 'long scale' and then that you want a 'Gibson scale 7 string' and this doesn't make much sense. Gibsons are the short scales (24.75", compared to Fender's 25.5" and the common 26.5" in 7 strings) and you're just losing tension going down scale like that. Anyway, long scales take small hands a little acquaintance time but the tone difference is worth it - you're getting more tension so you have a tighter and more powerful sound, and the way you hit the string has more influence on the tone you wind up with. Because of the low notes that 7 strings are usually there for, 7 strings need a longer scale (and heavier strings, but few guitar companies seem to be figuring that out - putting a 52 or 56 in low B is just fucking absurd as far as I'm concerned, and I'm sick of the thought of spending four times as much for fucking bass strings). 26.5" is still cutting a little short in my opinion, but for people who don't like pain it's usually a good scale length.
Jeff
I dislike the implication that I'm an ignorant cretin for not using two little fucking knobs that alter the tone electronically and instead favoring tone changes through the way I'm playing, I don't even have the fuckers in when I've set up my guitar the way I want it - in any situation they're bleeding a little bit of power and treble out and I can't stand it (it's basic electronics; the current I is going to be the voltage V divided by the resistance R, so unless you have something with infinite resistance you're dropping a little current [or treble, in the tone pot]) so I just yank out the knobs and put in a kill switch to drop the signal completely. This isn't a matter of metalheads being lazy slobs who are too stupid to understand the wonders of capacitance and varying resistance in an audio circuit, and I'd consider people who depend (not use, but depend) on knobs to twiddle with for changes in their tone to be much worse off than someone who can grab a note in a different way and get the sound changes he needs. I officially fucking hate volume and tone knobs.
That aside: WSW, I can't tell what you mean - you say 'long scale' and then that you want a 'Gibson scale 7 string' and this doesn't make much sense. Gibsons are the short scales (24.75", compared to Fender's 25.5" and the common 26.5" in 7 strings) and you're just losing tension going down scale like that. Anyway, long scales take small hands a little acquaintance time but the tone difference is worth it - you're getting more tension so you have a tighter and more powerful sound, and the way you hit the string has more influence on the tone you wind up with. Because of the low notes that 7 strings are usually there for, 7 strings need a longer scale (and heavier strings, but few guitar companies seem to be figuring that out - putting a 52 or 56 in low B is just fucking absurd as far as I'm concerned, and I'm sick of the thought of spending four times as much for fucking bass strings). 26.5" is still cutting a little short in my opinion, but for people who don't like pain it's usually a good scale length.
Jeff
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Been in some classes with guys playing schecters and had to kepe retweaking the set ups. I once went to a Nevermore gig where the hardware on Jeffs guitar started falling apart and messing with the strings, he switched it out for a backup and the exact same thing happened. What's worrying is that it was the pickup rings coming out of the body and resting on the high strings - which suggests to me that it's bad wood...
But at the same time, you should never judge a company's output by a couple of failed products, everyone makes faulties from time to time. It's just hard to trust something when you've seen it break down y'know? It's different to the reason I'm trying to keep away from Korean guitars now - I've owned 3 Korean guitars, and 4 Japanese. The japanese guitars feel way more solid, sound like they feel, and have lasted years into double figures. And they all cost about half what the Korean stuff did. I've always thought it's a big shame that the mid-priced Japanese market isn't very big in guitars at the moment - only things I can think of are the first few jap models of Ibanez before they get overpriced, and the esp Edwards' (which again, look like they cost less than some LTD models?)
Anyway, I could be wrong about any or all of this, I'm just ranting, so correct or ignore as you like!
Peace
I've never had a problem with my hardware. The pickup rings coming out would only indicate that there was too much twiddling with the screws or someone yanking the ring out with a fairly strong amount of force. The wood they use is typically mahogany and that won't have issues with holding screws and hardware in unless you've completely screwed the wood that kept the screws in. As far as the setups, that won't say much unless you can tell what was going on and why they were tweaking - sometimes people will have intonation and action tweaks to do, but that doesn't say anything about the product as much as it does about an improper setup job on their part when they got the thing. Then again, there are also people who blame their wrong notes on the action and that just needs to die.
I've also never played a Japanese guitar that played as well as my Schecter (C7 Blackjack). Come to think of it, the only American guitar that I liked more was... a custom shop Schecter. Oopsie.
Jeff
I've also never played a Japanese guitar that played as well as my Schecter (C7 Blackjack). Come to think of it, the only American guitar that I liked more was... a custom shop Schecter. Oopsie.
Jeff
Been in some classes with guys playing schecters and had to kepe retweaking the set ups. I once went to a Nevermore gig where the hardware on Jeffs guitar started falling apart and messing with the strings, he switched it out for a backup and the exact same thing happened. What's worrying is that it was the pickup rings coming out of the body and resting on the high strings - which suggests to me that it's bad wood...
But at the same time, you should never judge a company's output by a couple of failed products, everyone makes faulties from time to time. It's just hard to trust something when you've seen it break down y'know? It's different to the reason I'm trying to keep away from Korean guitars now - I've owned 3 Korean guitars, and 4 Japanese. The japanese guitars feel way more solid, sound like they feel, and have lasted years into double figures. And they all cost about half what the Korean stuff did. I've always thought it's a big shame that the mid-priced Japanese market isn't very big in guitars at the moment - only things I can think of are the first few jap models of Ibanez before they get overpriced, and the esp Edwards' (which again, look like they cost less than some LTD models?)
Anyway, I could be wrong about any or all of this, I'm just ranting, so correct or ignore as you like!
Peace
Thanks, i can understand you opinion on the Japanese guitars. The work ethic in Japan is so much higher than anywhere else. They take pride in what they do so even their mass produced stuff is quality. My USA made RR-1 has one of the nicest necks i've ever played. but you really have to pay for that quality. i remember when you couldn't get a set-neck or neck-thru for under a $1000 USD.
On a Jeff Loomis note, I saw him play an ESP M-307 on the DHIADW tour and that axe is still high on my wish list.
From here:
"Northern Hard Ash is very hard, heavy and dense. A Strat® body will normally weigh 5 lbs. and up. Its density contributes to a bright tone and a long sustain which makes it very popular. Its color is creamy, but it also tends to have heartwood featuring pink to brown tints. The grain pores are open and it takes a lot of finish to fill them up.
Swamp Ash is a prized wood for many reasons. It is a fairly light weight wood which makes it easily distinguishable from Hard Ash. A Strat® body will normally weigh under 5 lbs. Many of the 50's Fenders were made of Swamp Ash. The grain is open and the color is creamy. This wood is a very nice choice for clear finishes. Swamp Ash is our second most popular wood. It is a very musical wood offering a very nice balance of brightness and warmth with a lot of "pop"."
The Swamp Ash bodied Fenders are elite IMO. Love that sound.
~e.a
"Northern Hard Ash is very hard, heavy and dense. A Strat® body will normally weigh 5 lbs. and up. Its density contributes to a bright tone and a long sustain which makes it very popular. Its color is creamy, but it also tends to have heartwood featuring pink to brown tints. The grain pores are open and it takes a lot of finish to fill them up.
Swamp Ash is a prized wood for many reasons. It is a fairly light weight wood which makes it easily distinguishable from Hard Ash. A Strat® body will normally weigh under 5 lbs. Many of the 50's Fenders were made of Swamp Ash. The grain is open and the color is creamy. This wood is a very nice choice for clear finishes. Swamp Ash is our second most popular wood. It is a very musical wood offering a very nice balance of brightness and warmth with a lot of "pop"."
The Swamp Ash bodied Fenders are elite IMO. Love that sound.
~e.a
Kazrog
Kazrog, Inc.
I'd assume you know this from talking to Jeff? In that case, I'm really stoked I've already got mine on pre-order, because the Floyd is the selling point for me more than anything else. I already have a couple of ESP 7 strings with fixed bridge and 707s.
Thanks for the info!!
Nebulous
Daniel
Sort of pointless to only have 200 with Floyds IMO. If it's his sig model, but is practically the same as the C7 after teh 200 are sold, then what's the point of a sig model?
Having it as an option for orders would seem a bit more logical to me.
Having it as an option for orders would seem a bit more logical to me.
See, for them to have more options he'd, like, have to be as, you know, cool as... Avenged Sevenfold.
He won't get anywhere with a name like Jeff and no nail polish or eye shadow.
Fucking loser.
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Jeff
He won't get anywhere with a name like Jeff and no nail polish or eye shadow.
Fucking loser.
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Jeff
Kazrog
Kazrog, Inc.
I'd love to see a poll on a mainstream site to see how many people are aware of Jeff Loomis vs. Synyster Gates, etc. I wonder if the disparity is as big as a company like Schecter might think.
In any case, they're both great players, I'm just happy that Jeff is getting his own model, he deserves it.
