Which 7 String? Cooley? Loomis? Vai?

Man, missed this thread for a day or so, haha. Yeah, I mean when you start paying over $2k for a guitar, and I hate to say it, it doesn't necessarily equate to this other league of tones. Like any guitar, no matter what range in price, different guitars do some things better than other and vice versa. When I dropped $2,500 on a PRS Custom 24 I'll admit, I didn't buy it because of the TONEZ, I got it because it was fucking BEAUTIFUL. Yeah it sounded good, felt great, the build was top-notch...but I honestly don't think it sounded all that much better than any of my other guitars, yanno? Then I bought another one, same deal. It's not like I could go "well, these will be all I ever need" and get rid of everything else or anything. And I've sold off my old collection and kept a couple, one of them being my EC-1000. I just can't talk about the value enough with that axe. I'm not asking you to agree, I'm just saying I decided out of all the guitars to keep that one along with my 1st guitar (Strat) and another 1 or 2 if I remember correctly.

I know some would like to say that if it were pink with cocks on it you would buy it/keep it anyway if it sounded good. Bullshit. Everyone knows god damn well the guitar needs to LOOK good too, for your taste. Looks bring something to the table. Want to know why people will shell out $2k for a Fender Strat that looks like it's been through absolute hell, but was made yesterday? Because of the VIBE in how it looks. Simple. If you get a vibe from the guitar, you can run with it. It can inspire not only writing-wise but playing-wise as well. When I got my first HellRaiser C7 it made me play things I had never even thought about, something as simple as having 1 extra string brought out these completely fresh ideas and made me look at playing and writing differently. Just 1 string - fuck.

~006
 
006 said:
Man, missed this thread for a day or so, haha. Yeah, I mean when you start paying over $2k for a guitar, and I hate to say it, it doesn't necessarily equate to this other league of tones. Like any guitar, no matter what range in price, different guitars do some things better than other and vice versa. When I dropped $2,500 on a PRS Custom 24 I'll admit, I didn't buy it because of the TONEZ, I got it because it was fucking BEAUTIFUL. Yeah it sounded good, felt great, the build was top-notch...but I honestly don't think it sounded all that much better than any of my other guitars, yanno? Then I bought another one, same deal. It's not like I could go "well, these will be all I ever need" and get rid of everything else or anything. And I've sold off my old collection and kept a couple, one of them being my EC-1000. I just can't talk about the value enough with that axe. I'm not asking you to agree, I'm just saying I decided out of all the guitars to keep that one along with my 1st guitar (Strat) and another 1 or 2 if I remember correctly.

I know some would like to say that if it were pink with cocks on it you would buy it/keep it anyway if it sounded good. Bullshit. Everyone knows god damn well the guitar needs to LOOK good too, for your taste. Looks bring something to the table. Want to know why people will shell out $2k for a Fender Strat that looks like it's been through absolute hell, but was made yesterday? Because of the VIBE in how it looks. Simple. If you get a vibe from the guitar, you can run with it. It can inspire not only writing-wise but playing-wise as well. When I got my first HellRaiser C7 it made me play things I had never even thought about, something as simple as having 1 extra string brought out these completely fresh ideas and made me look at playing and writing differently. Just 1 string - fuck.

~006
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+1 !
 
006 said:
Man, missed this thread for a day or so, haha. Yeah, I mean when you start paying over $2k for a guitar, and I hate to say it, it doesn't necessarily equate to this other league of tones. Like any guitar, no matter what range in price, different guitars do some things better than other and vice versa. When I dropped $2,500 on a PRS Custom 24 I'll admit, I didn't buy it because of the TONEZ, I got it because it was fucking BEAUTIFUL. Yeah it sounded good, felt great, the build was top-notch...but I honestly don't think it sounded all that much better than any of my other guitars, yanno? Then I bought another one, same deal. It's not like I could go "well, these will be all I ever need" and get rid of everything else or anything. And I've sold off my old collection and kept a couple, one of them being my EC-1000. I just can't talk about the value enough with that axe. I'm not asking you to agree, I'm just saying I decided out of all the guitars to keep that one along with my 1st guitar (Strat) and another 1 or 2 if I remember correctly.


I know some would like to say that if it were pink with cocks on it you would buy it/keep it anyway if it sounded good. Bullshit. Everyone knows god damn well the guitar needs to LOOK good too, for your taste. Looks bring something to the table. Want to know why people will shell out $2k for a Fender Strat that looks like it's been through absolute hell, but was made yesterday? Because of the VIBE in how it looks. Simple. If you get a vibe from the guitar, you can run with it. It can inspire not only writing-wise but playing-wise as well. When I got my first HellRaiser C7 it made me play things I had never even thought about, something as simple as having 1 extra string brought out these completely fresh ideas and made me look at playing and writing differently. Just 1 string - fuck.

~006
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im deffinately with you on this one, i remember when i worked in a guitar shop, id pick a random guitar in my spare time, and some time i come up with some pretty cool stuff just because it was a different guitar (more often than not acoustic funnily enough)

sash
 
I would personally go with a Carvin Dc727. I have owned a Hellraiser C-7, an Ibanez Rg1527 and the Carvin is the 7-stringer I ended up keeping.

I can't say enough of good things about it, it's just that good.

The only downside is the stock pickups. They are not bad, but not very good either, and to make the thing worse, the stock pu's are smaller than Duncan's etc. so you need to make the route a bit bigger. That's not a problem though, since we are talking about a couple of millimeters. My Carvin is now equipped with a Duncan Custom at the bridge and the stock pickup at the neck.

I have an ESP F-STD S7 on the way, so we'll see how it compares to the Carvin. I like to have a sevenstring with active pickups and passive pickups, so that's why I ordered the ESP. It should be here soon.
 
Never played the Cooley, And i don't have a crush on the schecter necks(imho atleast), i like the Vai's, but the Carvin Dc727 is indeed very nais.
 
I have the import version of the cooley sig guitar preordered. still waiting for it. I'll let you know how it is when I get it. I've got high hopes.
 
Chryst Krispies said:
Yeah but angled pickups will still have a slightly different sound. The whole Hendrix Fender idea is based off that.
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I'm not too sure on this but it seems like it wouldn't affect the tone? Would passive or actives play a role in this and the fact the EMG is a blade magnet and not individual coils?
 
Kazrog said:
German? I was under the impression they were made in USA. It's an Original Floyd Rose, like the one below only in black:

http://www.floydrose.com/7string.html
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http://www.beyondeleven.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=floyd-rose-original-frt100-c

So apparently Schaller manufactures the OFRs and I've read about that a few years ago for the first time. Seems like this isn't widely known.

Funny thing is, Schaller also makes licensed Floyds with their own logo (which are quite excellent, have one on my Caparison). I wonder if there's much of a difference...
 
slashvanyoung said:
http://www.beyondeleven.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=floyd-rose-original-frt100-c

So apparently Schaller manufactures the OFRs and I've read about that a few years ago for the first time. Seems like this isn't widely known.

Funny thing is, Schaller also makes licensed Floyds with their own logo (which are quite excellent, have one on my Caparison). I wonder if there's much of a difference...
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AFAIK the baseplate is different (different kind of metal or something), apart from that they are pretty much the same. :)
 
The Schaller Licensed Floyd Rose trems are often more expensive and are commonly considered more superior than the Original Floyd Rose trems (that are made by Schaller).

FLOYD ROSE ORIGINAL

SCHALLER 15370 FLOYD ROSE

Some even consider the GOTOH Licensed Floyd Rose trems to be superior to the OFRs hence why you'll find them as standard on Suhrs

Gotoh Floyd Rose

In our estimation, this is simply the best double-locking tremolo system on the market today. The construction quality is second-to-none while producing a big tone with plenty of bottom end that is not normally found in bridges of this type.

The arm mechanism is solid with no clunking whatsoever. It feels extremely smooth and stable, allowing you to dive bomb deep into the sonic subterranean regions as well as pulling up those squealing high harmonics into the stratosphere. The beveled saddles also provide more comfort when resting your palm on them. This is the ultimate Floyd and we are very pleased to offer this bridge on our instruments.
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Here's one that I trust is good (I doubt Warmoth would stock it if it wasn't, not to mention the price!), but I dunno if it's a Schaller...
 
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