ok, thanks for all your responses, I have to be straight with you. I am not really new to symphony x I have all their albums and have listened to them all very very thoroughly. I was just seeing how many people put V and no one really did. I am very please with that, I found V to be the most boring album since Norah Jones' latest cd. The self titled album is the worst cd period, Rod Tyler deserves to be shot in head with a bow and arrow at very close range. So far my favorite album is Odyssey. I have added frontiers to it and this album is the most complete kickass album I've heard in my life. All the other albums are good too, I love them all like my children. Keep in mind, all these opinions are based on a Heavy Metal Likers background, I am not into the progressive part that much. I just hope the next album is more like odyssey less like V