lurch's deal thread ...

[MajestikMøøse]

I'll try another:

http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/se...ctId=1001287&navigationPath=33000n32100n32104

priced $250 CDN at that other link.

 

[MadeInNewJersey]

Stop right there. Do NOT buy anything Sony for audio. You've been warned.

 

[MajestikMøøse]

ok.

do you have a "safe list"?

 

[MadeInNewJersey]

Yes.

Onkyo
Pioneer
Kenwood
Denon
H/K (way too expensive, though I think even they have entered the affordable "in-a-box" market)
Bose (ditto)

edit: I don't know much about Yamaha, but they have an excellent reputation for home audio equip.

 

[MajestikMøøse]

Pioneer Home Theatre System (HTP-2600) - $399.99 (CDN)

Product Features

* 24-Bit Digital-To-Analog Converter (DAC)
* Delivers high resolution digitally accurate multi-channel sound for all of your favourite sources: HDTV, Movies, Music, and Games.
* 5-Channel Stereo sends identical music information to all speakers for maximum room coverage.


Product Details

Web Code: 10062652
Mfr. Part Number: HTP-2600
# of Speakers in Package, Including Subwoofer 6
2-Way Centre Speakers Yes
2-Way Main Speakers Yes
2-Way Rear Speakers Yes
Component Video Input/Output No
Disc Capacity None
Dolby Digital EX No
Dolby Digital Surround Sound Yes
Dolby Pro Logic II Yes
Dolby Pro Logic Surround Yes
DTS Decoder Yes
DTS ES No
Frequency Response 20Hz - 20kHz
Front-Panel A/V Inputs No
Headphone Jack Yes
Hook Up Wires Included No
Included In Box Receiver, Speakers, Subwoofer, Remote
Includes DVD Player No
Magnetically Shielded Yes
Multiroom Capability No
On-Screen Display No
Preamp Outputs No
Product Warranty 1 Year Parts & Labour
Product Weight 9.8 kg
Progressive Scan DVD No
Remote Type SR Remote
S-Video In/Out No
Speaker Colour Black
Stereo Audio Inputs/Outputs 3
Subwoofer Colour Silver
Subwoofer Power 125 Watts
Subwoofer Size 6-5/16"
System Colour Silver
THX Select No
THX Ultra II No
Total System Power, Including Subwoofer 1000 Watts
Video Monitor Output Yes

 

[MadeInNewJersey]

Looks pretty nice, but I can't for the life of me understand why they'd enable DTS encoding, but not provide input/output for either S-Video (now archaic) or more importantly, component video. Makes no sense. If that receiver doesn't have digital optical or coaxial inputs, it's just not going to be that satisfactory to you in a few years. It might not be possible at that price range though, I don't know.

 

[MajestikMøøse]

It will probably do. I'm only going to be using it for audio anyway.

I'll go down and check it out in a few days.

 

[MadeInNewJersey]

If you're only using it for audio, you should be golden. Everything I mentioned was more about audio/video transfer quality when watching DVDs, etc. Good luck.

 

[dorian gray]

do not i repeat DO NOT purchase a "home theater in a box". the receivers are generally fine but they can offer the kit at such a relatively low price because they put the worlds shittiest speakers in along with it. two years after suffering with my kenwood i had to get some big 3-ways. the 6 surrounders that came with the kit now take up space in my closet.
secondly, for whatever reason, music sounds like SHIT on a surround system 5.1, 6.1, 7.1 whatever, it doesnt matter. stereo only for music please.
bottom line: buy the most powerful amp and two most expensive speakers you can possibly afford. you DO NOT NEED A SUB.
good luck with your purchase

 

[Conspicuously Absent]

Music sounds fine on my 5.1 system, but then again, I only use it when I can crank it.

 

[dorian gray]

good for you andrew. not from my experience though. i think it has something to with music being recorded in stereo, not surround. i dont know much about it. just never sounded good to me.

 

[Conspicuously Absent]

yeah, you end up with shite coming out the satellites. You don't notice it as much (at least I don't) at higher volumes, but i do at lower ones. Or maybe it's because I'm running it through my computer and it might work differently. I don't really know.

 

[MajestikMøøse]

yeah, I know I don't need a sub at all. Fuck this ".1" bullshit.

The speakers are what's holding me back from the "home theatre in a box" shit. The included stuff looks so puny, and then they include this huge sub which I wouldn't even hook up at all... ...and I agree, for music, all I really need is two speakers.

 

[lurch70]

i was a sub non believer until i used one ... for movies ... well there is no substitute.

and for music, if you have small speakers ... you need a sub.


my rig is.

DENON 5.1 receiver (some 4 years old rig)
ENERGY Take 5 sub/sat system.

I agree on home theater in a box systems ... and if the one I recommended was around $400 (where it should be) ... I would say, stay away ... but for $150 ... fuck me

 

[Conspicuously Absent]

I don't mind a sub when I listen to stoner stuff. Or Sunn 0)))

 

[dorian gray]

yeah, I know I don't need a sub at all. Fuck this ".1" bullshit.

The speakers are what's holding me back from the "home theatre in a box" shit. The included stuff looks so puny, and then they include this huge sub which I wouldn't even hook up at all... ...and I agree, for music, all I really need is two speakers.

you rule mr moose. you can buy the components seperatlely. just get a receiver and two speakers. dont matter which company. as long as theyre expensive as fuck. ie you get what you pay for

 

[lurch70]

as long as theyre expensive as fuck. ie you get what you pay for

hahah .. this is actually kind of true in audio ...

rule of thumb is ... if you will go the separates route ... put most of the money into the speakers.

 

[Conspicuously Absent]

A sub would ruin most of M00se's music, since it's all blackmetal. and would you want like... grim frostbitten sounding speakers for black metal?

 

[MajestikMøøse]

goddammit I'm starting to think I might have to hold this off for another year.

 

[dorian gray]

second what lurch said
although i think "you get what you pay for" applies to almost everything within reason. ie: a bentley is going to fall apart much quicker and more often than a camry. you gotta use judgement