Males and Females

It makes things worse imo. One ex of mine turned a friend against me because she couldn't get over me. Another just got kinda whiny.
 
Who ever it was that posted about keeping pace to Absu's Pillars of Mercy while having sex.....fuck you :lol: fuck you so hard.
 
Wow, chinagirl actually showed me up tonight. She messaged me online and we got into our first conversation in like two weeks. She apparently needed some time to think over my initial words with her (again, I asked her out 3 weeks ago). At this point she's been flirting with one of my friends for a while, and i kept asking her tonight about her feelings for him in order to potentially get her to make a decision on whether to date him or not and save me some grief.

She made several compelling assertions, including the following:
1) What happens between her and my friend is their business, not mine
2) She'll take as much time as she needs to make a decision on whether to date him
3) She has a right to flirt how, when and with whom she wishes
4) She thinks she used to share my attitude that couples owed respect to their friends by avoiding public displays of affection, but she now looks back on that attitude as ridiculous and reminiscent of an older, more backwards era of history

So, wow. What do I say to that?
 
From an outside standpoint, I can see how that makes sense. Asking a girl you've made a move on how she feels about another guy conveys a sense of insecurity, which I doubt many women find attractive.

zabu of nΩd;10194463 said:
So, wow. What do I say to that?

Tell her that's reasonable, and as a result, you will wait for her decision without asking her about it.
 
her beliefs and whatever are fine but she can only string you along for so long. Is she gonna go out with you or not? This shouldn't take forever. She can date other guys while you guys aren't exclusive. Otherwise she's just leading you on
 
I would honestly just forget about her. Like, does a person really need that much time to come up with answer? If so, it's because she isn't really that interested and she isn't being upfront about it, so she's simply easing herself out of an uncomfortable position. She is obviously more into the other guy and there's no point in playing second fiddle or being that guy she can always look to and feign feelings for when there's no one else. I wouldn't bother playing that game, just move on.
 
zabu of nΩd;10194463 said:
Wow, chinagirl actually showed me up tonight. She messaged me online and we got into our first conversation in like two weeks. She apparently needed some time to think over my initial words with her (again, I asked her out 3 weeks ago). At this point she's been flirting with one of my friends for a while, and i kept asking her tonight about her feelings for him in order to potentially get her to make a decision on whether to date him or not and save me some grief.

She made several compelling assertions, including the following:
1) What happens between her and my friend is their business, not mine
2) She'll take as much time as she needs to make a decision on whether to date him
3) She has a right to flirt how, when and with whom she wishes
4) She thinks she used to share my attitude that couples owed respect to their friends by avoiding public displays of affection, but she now looks back on that attitude as ridiculous and reminiscent of an older, more backwards era of history

So, wow. What do I say to that?

So I would say that she's not going to date you and is interested in your friend. Assuming this is the case, she could have been a little more honest with you, but odds are she was looking for the right way to break it to you so you don't get hurt and you can still be friends. As far as what she said, she's pretty much completely right. Couples should avoid excessive PDAs in public situations, but it's more of an obligation to humanity than a specific obligation to their friends. But yeah, I would say just forget about being with her and move on.
 
Dump her. If she's going to flirt with other guys just like that, then don't waste your time chasing her. She's definitely not interested in you.
 
Sorry, i probably left out some background details. She already gave me a no on going out with me, so i'm not pursuing her anymore and she's not leading me on still. It's pretty clear at this point that she's more into this friend of mine than anyone else in our group. I'm more worried about having to watch them flirt together for the next few months or however long it is (ever since i asked her out i've been trying to get her to be more clear about her feelings for others in the group so that we can hang out together without there being all this sexual tension, but obviously she doesn't work that way). I'm pretty sure my friend doesn't want the long drawn-out flirting game, but he's still making up his mind on whether he wants to go through with it.
 
The whole thing's kinda complex, so idk if i'm really doing her justice here. I certainly don't hate her, and i'd like to stay friends if at all convenient. Obviously i'm free to protest the situation by not hanging out with her, and that might well help things along, especially if this friend of mine (who hasn't known her that long really) gets tired of her. As long as it still appears to her that it's just me being butthurt while everyone else is having a good time, i don't have much of a case to make.