Looking forward to it man - but don't feel you have to wait until you have a before you make some clips!
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Felix Neumann
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Looking forward to it man - but don't feel you have to wait until you have a before you make some clips!
I think, I should post some clips here..okay I will do so
+10000
I love the red channel for Metal a lot, it´s awesome brutal, modern but nevertheless the sound reminds me of my alltime 80´ faves Megadeth, Slayer or Maiden. The orange Channel is also a fist in your face, when you raise the volume...and with the Mesa recti 4x12 it´s like a wet guitar dream coming true!!!
I think he meant to say 'Don't wait until you have recorded your singer before you make some clips with your guitars'.
In other words, make some clips right now!
In other words, make some clips right now!
Felix Neumann
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Felix Neumann
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My name is Damage
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Felix Neumann
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I posted a new JVM205 clip in the "rate my mix" section...I played with the red channel:
JVM205 Thread
Greetz,
Felix
JVM205 Thread
Greetz,
Felix
I´m still in love
You've got some awesome grind going on at that tune!
Heavy yet defined! Did you have much post-processing going on there?
And FYI, in case you didn't know, the Rockerverb 30 has EL84's, whereas the 50 has EL34's. Granted, I loved the tone of my Tiny Terror which had EL84's, but my general understanding is they're saggier than EL34's, and my TT could've done with a bit of tightening that EL34's might've helped (of course, then it wouldn't be too Tiny anymore) I'd recommend trying 'em both if you can! (and also, my TT benefited MASSIVELY from a TS)
Oh I didn't knew that. I thought both of them come with EL84s...
Cool. I gotta find a place to check out the Alchemist. I don't trust any amp I haven't heard and dialed in in person.
deanbailey
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I heard/tried the JVM 410H and I must say (in my mind) it's probably the best amp I've heard. It really didn't even need a TS to tighten it up, in fact the TS just made it harsher.
@ Marcus: The OD1 channel on the amp sounds like your standard Marshall tone, but the OD 2 channel on this amp is not as harsh in the upper mids at all and is sort of scooped slightly in that area. All 4 channels have 3 modes (or gain stages) so it's the probably THE most versatile amp I've ever heard/heard of.
@ Marcus: The OD1 channel on the amp sounds like your standard Marshall tone, but the OD 2 channel on this amp is not as harsh in the upper mids at all
and is sort of scooped slightly in that area. All 4 channels have 3 modes (or gain stages) so it's the probably THE most versatile amp I've ever heard/heard of.
Felix Neumann
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Hey Slash
Thanks for your words!! For the sound on "gunman´s poem" I did not use some specail post processing..just the standard wave eqalizer. I played two tracks with the JVM full left/right and some supporting elements with the v-amp professional ´19.I heard/tried the JVM 410H and I must say (in my mind) it's probably the best amp I've heard. It really didn't even need a TS to tighten it up, in fact the TS just made it harsher.
@ Marcus: The OD1 channel on the amp sounds like your standard Marshall tone, but the OD 2 channel on this amp is not as harsh in the upper mids at all
Totally agreed.
Putting "any" overdrive/distortion pedals in front of this amp is completely unnecessary, and in almost all cases, degrades the sound and tone. There is MORE than enough gain and versitality in this amp as is.
I find that OD1 orange nails the classic metal sound as well as straight up hard rock (depending on your gain settings). OD1 and OD2 red are totally ready for raging metal. When you hit a power chord here, it sounds like thunder with a crunch/distortion that sounds like a monstrous, fire breathing dragon. :Smokedev:
I recently was at the guitar store and spend some time demoing a bunch of amps. Mainly just the upper level ones including: Peavey 6505+, JSX, and the new 3120, Bogner Alchemist, Mesa Dual Rec, Egnator TM. No matter what they all pail in comparison to the Marshall JVM.
Actually, I just looked, and it seems the Rockerverb 50 comes with 4 6V6's, which I don't know much about (though I'm assuming EL34 to 6L6 = EL84 to 6V6, so it'd still probably be tighter than the 30, to say nothing of louder!)
Someone needs to read the Tube Screamer FAQ
(though the short version is we're talking about using it for it's filtering effects, rather than for any any extra gain)Someone needs to read the Tube Screamer FAQ
Oh, no.... I understand the use of these pedals for the filtering effects. Im just saying (from personal experience) that putting a TS-9 or SD-1 (Which I have both) in front of this amp, is defeating the purpose of the amp. I do not find it advantageous to the tone of the amp to put an OD pedal in front.
However.... a 6505 or Mesa Duel Rec, thats a different story. You put a TS-9/SD-1 in front of one of those guys, and it changes the sound for the better in most cases. Especially those looking to get a tight, fast attack metal sound. Low end roll off, and tighter gain...etc. - For the JVM, its not needed in my experience and opinion. As a sound effect, I guess its a matter of taste... but, I tried those pedals in every gain stage of my JVM 410. Any sound that I was able to get with those pedals boosting any one of those channels, I was able to replicate without, only sounding much more pure and natural.
Yeah, I hear ya dude, from what I've heard Engls don't benefit from a TS before 'em either (but goddamn does my Dual Rec, I'd never use it without one, but with it's my favorite amp EVAR!)
Hell yeah man... a TS in front of a Duel Rec is a recipe for success ;-)
No need for a debate there !
Ok... I take back my comment about the use of OD/Boost pedals in front of the JVM in the exception of "active pups" - I once tried a EMG equiped guitar through this JVM, and it sounded sterile, undynamic, and lifeless as oppossed to my well equiped guitars with passive pups.
However, I just got a C7 Hellraiser and even though it had the EMG 707 pups, it was too good and nice looking of a guitar to pass up. Not to mention I always wanted a 7 string. Anyway... been playing around with it today and encountered the same EMG sound through the amp, and wasnt too thrilled. Of course its suppossed to sound different than passive pups, but, even by cranking the gain on the OD channels, it was just missing somthing. So, I put an TS/SD1 in front to see what would happen, and holy shit, the guitar sounded absolutely demonic and brutal.
So I guess when it comes to a guitar with active pups, and you put a TS like pedal in front of a JVM, You'll acheive "brutal" like nothing. Only downside of course, is switching to clean and doing the tap dancing, but wow. With a stock C7 HR > stock SD-1 > JVM > Mesa Standard Cab, it instantly becomes the most brutal guitar sound Ive ever heard. Fuck...
However, I just got a C7 Hellraiser and even though it had the EMG 707 pups, it was too good and nice looking of a guitar to pass up. Not to mention I always wanted a 7 string. Anyway... been playing around with it today and encountered the same EMG sound through the amp, and wasnt too thrilled. Of course its suppossed to sound different than passive pups, but, even by cranking the gain on the OD channels, it was just missing somthing. So, I put an TS/SD1 in front to see what would happen, and holy shit, the guitar sounded absolutely demonic and brutal.
So I guess when it comes to a guitar with active pups, and you put a TS like pedal in front of a JVM, You'll acheive "brutal" like nothing. Only downside of course, is switching to clean and doing the tap dancing, but wow. With a stock C7 HR > stock SD-1 > JVM > Mesa Standard Cab, it instantly becomes the most brutal guitar sound Ive ever heard. Fuck...
I really, REALLY need to try one of these amps again. I played one for around 2 minutes once, after sitting in front of a my 6505 for 20 minutes, and couldn't get back to the Peavey fast enough.
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