infoterror
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Final_Product said:I was curious as to whether Brad was was taking an inclusivist angle.
Hmm. It will be interesting to see. Sorry for fjucking up your thread
Final_Product said:I was curious as to whether Brad was was taking an inclusivist angle.
infoterror said:Hmm. It will be interesting to see. Sorry for fjucking up your thread
proglodite said:Hypotetically, I'm screwed. In reality, I know that I'm far from screwed. As for yourself, because a relationship with christ is spiritual, not purely mental, I can't argue you into it; you have to take the first step yourself. Or else you could pull a John Safran and try every religion out, plus christianity.
Final_Product said:I'm a spiritual person, I just feel no need to embrace that spirituality with dogma, in some insane translation of the ineffable.
proglodite said:No-one said anything about dogma. Following christ is a liberation of the spirit, not a harnessing of it.
Final_Product said:Spirituality is something humans experience yet do not have the full capacity to explain.
Take that feeling, idea, experience and fit it into the structure of a religion and you cannot help but take something from it.
infoterror said:Hint to any debating free will in ANY philosophical setting: carefully define what you mean.
Absolute free will? LOL, hell no, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Ability to choose within limits of experience, genetic-neural limits, and the like? Of course.
infoterror said:Some ideas on a related topic:
When people talk about perfection, they often fall into the trap of assuming a linear world: a place like the mythical Heaven where there is no bad, only good, and good of the purest sense. While as symbol that sounds appealing, when one goes through the process of plotting out life, it sounds terrible, because it would rapidly lead to repetition. If there's one right answer to every question, and every activity turns out excellently, is there any enough contrast to claim one has actually had an experience? Without danger, adventures would become tourist play; without the possibility of failure, success would have no greatness. Without death, there would be no reason to make one decision over another in life, as all experiences would be exactly equal thanks to infinite days and thus zero consequences. Screw up your life? Live another lifetime, within your lifetime. Boundaries give meaning to what lies within them, in other words.
http://www.anus.com/zine/articles/perfect/
proglodite said:We have seen earth, so we can appreciate heaven. And 'time' is most likely a physical parameter (ie. not in heaven) so monotony would hardly be an issue
Final_Product said:They are actually tangible.
dictionary.com said:Tangible, adj.
1. Discernible by the touch; palpable: a tangible roughness of the skin.
2. Possible to touch.
3. Possible to be treated as fact; real or concrete: tangible evidence.
Final_Product said:Hmm...To be honest, I've had these conversations a million times with many different people, I stick to my guns and so do they. It becomes boring.