Hammer Bart
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A Swiss scene if ever I saw one 
I like totally heart wood finishes by the way, they are sooo the rocks.
I like totally heart wood finishes by the way, they are sooo the rocks.
mesa rectifier vs peavey 6505
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Brett - K A L I S I A
Dreaded Moderator
LMAO !!!
"A guitar player called me to report that his guitar, which had worked well for several years, was now not playing in tune. He suspected that the tuning mechanisms were worn and slipping, and he wanted to know whether I could replace these. I said yes, please bring your guitar to my shop. When the caller arrived, I examined the guitar and found no problems: the tuners worked perfectly, the bridge hadn’t become unglued, the frets and nut hadn’t moved, the neck hadn’t warped; the guitar was not in any way damaged or broken; in fact, everything was exactly as it should be. What had really happened was that the musician’s ear had improved over time so that he could now hear that the guitar did not play in tune. In fact it never had; but he simply had been unable to hear the dissonances before.
Obviously a guitar which plays in tune is better that one that doesn’t; but if one is unable to hear this then it becomes a non-issue. With an improved ear, this man was ready for an improved guitar."
"A guitar player called me to report that his guitar, which had worked well for several years, was now not playing in tune. He suspected that the tuning mechanisms were worn and slipping, and he wanted to know whether I could replace these. I said yes, please bring your guitar to my shop. When the caller arrived, I examined the guitar and found no problems: the tuners worked perfectly, the bridge hadn’t become unglued, the frets and nut hadn’t moved, the neck hadn’t warped; the guitar was not in any way damaged or broken; in fact, everything was exactly as it should be. What had really happened was that the musician’s ear had improved over time so that he could now hear that the guitar did not play in tune. In fact it never had; but he simply had been unable to hear the dissonances before.
Obviously a guitar which plays in tune is better that one that doesn’t; but if one is unable to hear this then it becomes a non-issue. With an improved ear, this man was ready for an improved guitar."
for me this bridge is the best it's adjustable in the three dimensions
and for the price i paid a friend price the luthier's my buddy so 3000 chf
which makes about 4800 euros
for other guys a guitar is 8000 euros but it's worth every peny
and me i think those factory guitars with all the paint are ugly but you got
to have one in your hands the touch is wonderfull it vibrates more
and for the price i paid a friend price the luthier's my buddy so 3000 chf
which makes about 4800 euros
for other guys a guitar is 8000 euros but it's worth every peny
and me i think those factory guitars with all the paint are ugly but you got
to have one in your hands the touch is wonderfull it vibrates more
From xe.com's currency converter:
8,000.00 EUR = 9,584.18 USD
Euro United States Dollars
1 EUR = 1.19802 USD
1 USD = 0.834709 EUR
And you paid:
4,800.00 EUR = 5,746.95 USD
Dude, honestly, you paid way too much for that guitar, lol. There are so many custom shops here in the US *alone* that could make the same exact guitar (actually probably better as well) for like $2,000 US. Including every single little thing you want on it. It's not even a set-neck or a neck-thru guitar. It's bolt-on. I would NOT pay $9,000+ for a custom guitar. Ever. They just DON'T cost that much. Thats absolutely rediculous. It's like buying a used car. Only you can't drive that guitar anywhere. Jesus christ...that's just so obnoxious...
You may like your guitar, and thats great, I would too if I paid over five thousand dollars for it...but as I said, the custom shops here charge MUCH less and you can get that same exact guitar. Exactly the same. For $2,000 US. Which would be...$1,670 EURO. Lol.
~006
8,000.00 EUR = 9,584.18 USD
Euro United States Dollars
1 EUR = 1.19802 USD
1 USD = 0.834709 EUR
And you paid:
4,800.00 EUR = 5,746.95 USD
Dude, honestly, you paid way too much for that guitar, lol. There are so many custom shops here in the US *alone* that could make the same exact guitar (actually probably better as well) for like $2,000 US. Including every single little thing you want on it. It's not even a set-neck or a neck-thru guitar. It's bolt-on. I would NOT pay $9,000+ for a custom guitar. Ever. They just DON'T cost that much. Thats absolutely rediculous. It's like buying a used car. Only you can't drive that guitar anywhere. Jesus christ...that's just so obnoxious...
You may like your guitar, and thats great, I would too if I paid over five thousand dollars for it...but as I said, the custom shops here charge MUCH less and you can get that same exact guitar. Exactly the same. For $2,000 US. Which would be...$1,670 EURO. Lol.
~006
cobhc
Amiga Enthusiast
i personally think abyss guitars are much nicer and much more worth the $3-4k price tag. Check this, i love the binding/inlays
Yeah but you can still get that same quality guitar custom made for like $2-2,700 US. My point was that he paid like $5,700US for that guitar...and for what it is...it's not worth that. lol. I hope there is a little TV built into it somewhere, or maybe the insides of the cavities are covered in gold...otherwise I don't see $5,700 worth of guitar in those pictures. Seriously. I've seen $40,000 PRS guitars, and you can see why it costs that much...inlays on the neck and body that are extremely intricate done with very difficult to work with shell and all done by hand...5A quilted and flamed tops, superb craftsmanship...I wouldn't buy one, but I can see how they justify charging that much.
I mean...fuck there's not even a finish on that guitar. It's freakin sealed wood. It's not like he used some expensive paint and did an amazing paint job. Or like it has a set-neck or neck-thru construction. Or even anything really all that great about in the first place. I just do NOT see a $5,700 guitar. Maybe a couple thousand...but holy shit. And he charges $9k and up for regular customers...for THOSE guitars....lol. I'm sorry but thats just a joke to me.
~006
I mean...fuck there's not even a finish on that guitar. It's freakin sealed wood. It's not like he used some expensive paint and did an amazing paint job. Or like it has a set-neck or neck-thru construction. Or even anything really all that great about in the first place. I just do NOT see a $5,700 guitar. Maybe a couple thousand...but holy shit. And he charges $9k and up for regular customers...for THOSE guitars....lol. I'm sorry but thats just a joke to me.
~006
cobhc
Amiga Enthusiast
yeah i agree man, and i dont know about those pickups supposedly sounding so awesome, let us hear some recordings of them through your recto man, play some nile or something
first of you calculated wrong on xe.com
xe.com Universal Currency Converter ® Results
Live mid-market rates as of 2006.02.06 16:18:29 UTC.
3,000.00 CHF
Switzerland Francs = 2,307.98 USD
United States Dollars
1 CHF = 0.769327 USD 1 USD = 1.29984 CHF
and then here in switzerland the prices of guitars from the us are awfully
high for example my kh2 that i had before cost around 5000chf which makes
3800 usd and the kh 2 was not as good as my handmade guitar
i had also a washburn custom made and still not as good so i don't care
for my hand this is the best
believe me i know it's a matter of taste in sound and neck profile so this one
was made for my hand can't be better
xe.com Universal Currency Converter ® Results
Live mid-market rates as of 2006.02.06 16:18:29 UTC.
3,000.00 CHF
Switzerland Francs = 2,307.98 USD
United States Dollars
1 CHF = 0.769327 USD 1 USD = 1.29984 CHF
and then here in switzerland the prices of guitars from the us are awfully
high for example my kh2 that i had before cost around 5000chf which makes
3800 usd and the kh 2 was not as good as my handmade guitar
i had also a washburn custom made and still not as good so i don't care
for my hand this is the best
believe me i know it's a matter of taste in sound and neck profile so this one
was made for my hand can't be better
Brett - K A L I S I A
Dreaded Moderator
Or check out those : http://www.uvainstruments.com/
They are really cool, very good (I didn't test them myself but I'm sure James can confirm this as he knows them), can do ANYTHING you ask them (even 8 strings neck...), and not expensive !
They are really cool, very good (I didn't test them myself but I'm sure James can confirm this as he knows them), can do ANYTHING you ask them (even 8 strings neck...), and not expensive !
cobhc
Amiga Enthusiast
xe.com isn't a great tool to use as i'm sure thats not commercial exchange rates, but still........
Brett - K A L I S I A
Dreaded Moderator
well nice guitars too but if you can't see the guy whose building your guitar
instead of sending e-mails or phoning i don't think they'll manage to exactelly
do an instrument that's exactelly for only one person
this luthier lives near my location he measured my hands and asked me which guitars i had previously and watched me play on one of his other guitars
and the services are better because you know the guy who made your guitar
even at esp and jackson 3 or 5 guys build your custom
but i don't say your guitars are bad don't take me wrong every one has
different taste in guitars
instead of sending e-mails or phoning i don't think they'll manage to exactelly
do an instrument that's exactelly for only one person
this luthier lives near my location he measured my hands and asked me which guitars i had previously and watched me play on one of his other guitars
and the services are better because you know the guy who made your guitar
even at esp and jackson 3 or 5 guys build your custom
but i don't say your guitars are bad don't take me wrong every one has
different taste in guitars
Ok, thats a little more true to how much that guitar should cost. I still think it's a tad overpriced for what it is, but I can see it being that much. However, he said the price is at least twice the amount he paid if you don't know the guy....so if he paid $2,300US for that...then if, for instance, I wanted that same guitar, it would be over $4,600US...That's still way overpriced for those guitars. Lol. Like I said, this is such a joke.
~006
~006
If you can't get the guitar you want from anyone by using e-mails, pictures, phone calls, etc. then obviously you're using the wrong custom shop. I have never heard of anybody getting a custom made guitar from the places I'm talking about and saying "oh, they didn't have it like I wanted it." It's fairly easy to convey your vision over the phone, through e-mails, using pictures and drawings- without having to know the person or having to actually be there with the guy. Who cares if ESP has 3 or 4 guys make your guitar...thats just more guys to make sure one of the others ones didn't miss anything. And when you're paying $4,000US for a custom shop ESP, the value is THERE. They have 3 or 4 guys working on it for a reason, to make sure it's perfect. You pay that much and have that many people working on it...they ALL know what the guitar is suppose to be, it's not like you talk to one guy and he knows exactly what you want, and then the other 2 or 3 guys just make it...they all know what you want. I don't see how thats even a valid argument. At all.
~006
~006
Ravenous Enemy
hell alive
Brett - K A L I S I A
Dreaded Moderator
as i said in switzerland the prices of making guitars come from the us and
the money taken by the local dealers are to high
the kh 2 on the esp website is 2399 usd
Live mid-market rates as of 2006.02.06 16:37:29 UTC.
2,399.00 USD
United States Dollars = 3,117.68 CHF
Switzerland Francs
1 USD = 1.29957 CHF 1 CHF = 0.769483 USD
ther i should pay 3117.68 chf but the local dealers in switzerland sell it
which is the price i paid my handmade
5000 chf is 1882 chf higher than the esp price
Live mid-market rates as of 2006.02.06 16:40:29 UTC.
1,882.00 CHF
Switzerland Francs = 1,448.31 USD
United States Dollars
1 CHF = 0.769559 USD 1 USD = 1.29945 CHF
believe me in switzerland music is one of the most expensive hoby
the money taken by the local dealers are to high
the kh 2 on the esp website is 2399 usd
Live mid-market rates as of 2006.02.06 16:37:29 UTC.
2,399.00 USD
United States Dollars = 3,117.68 CHF
Switzerland Francs
1 USD = 1.29957 CHF 1 CHF = 0.769483 USD
ther i should pay 3117.68 chf but the local dealers in switzerland sell it
which is the price i paid my handmade
5000 chf is 1882 chf higher than the esp price
Live mid-market rates as of 2006.02.06 16:40:29 UTC.
1,882.00 CHF
Switzerland Francs = 1,448.31 USD
United States Dollars
1 CHF = 0.769559 USD 1 USD = 1.29945 CHF
believe me in switzerland music is one of the most expensive hoby
djairouks said:
I went by the EURO amount you gave me. Which was 4800 euro. 3000CHF does NOT convert to 4800EUR, it converts to 1,927.14EUR. Not my fault if you don't know how your currency converts to others. Thats a pretty big mistake there.
xe.com is fine for conversions, they use the current exchange rates, thats good enough.
~006
yes sorry totally my mistake but maybe the custom shops are really good
but i'm sorry esp or jackson don't do exactelly the neck you like they have
models and you choose that's what i meant this luthier made the neck as i told him but if you like the necks it's not a problem at all
i don't mean to offend anyone here
but i'm sorry esp or jackson don't do exactelly the neck you like they have
models and you choose that's what i meant this luthier made the neck as i told him but if you like the necks it's not a problem at all
i don't mean to offend anyone here
