Metalcore

It's better than fag groups like atreyu, Underoath, Bullet for my valentine which is all metalcore

the differance is those 3 bands all did it to get big, get some cash, play with iron maiden and succeeded. agonist tried to be brutal/do something different and failed
 

A bastardized genre of music in which the distorted guitars and agressive vocals of hardcore and heavy metal are dumbed down musically and then packaged to be marketable to angst-ridden teens. The name is derived from the "-core" system often used to name metal and punk varients such as hardcore, metalcore and emocore, and is so named because it targets your standard mall-going teens rather than real music enthusiasts, who nearly unanimously dismiss it as garbage. It can be characterized by chugging riffs based around basic (and often no) progression, and angsty yelled or rapped vocals. The lyrical content often complains about the unfairness of teenage situation, parents, school, or in rare cases politics. There is very little place for any musical innovation, and electronic effects and samples have taken the place of guitar solos and the like in 90% of the genre's bands.
 
How did they fail? just because they are not mainstream and christian

we get it you don't like Christians. now stfu you cockmaster. just cause a band is christian doesn't make them bad.

i.e. Horde, War of Ages, Norma Jean, Holy Blood, Slechtvalk, With Blood Comes Cleansing, Antestor, Becoming the Archetype, August Burns Red, Mortal Treason.

are all christian bands and they are all at least decent if not good to very good. I'm sure V5 can provide some even better examples.

you can be stupid and not listen to a band just cause they are christian, that is your loss. :Puke:
 
A bastardized genre of music in which the distorted guitars and agressive vocals of hardcore and heavy metal are dumbed down musically and then packaged to be marketable to angst-ridden teens. The name is derived from the "-core" system often used to name metal and punk varients such as hardcore, metalcore and emocore, and is so named because it targets your standard mall-going teens rather than real music enthusiasts, who nearly unanimously dismiss it as garbage. It can be characterized by chugging riffs based around basic (and often no) progression, and angsty yelled or rapped vocals. The lyrical content often complains about the unfairness of teenage situation, parents, school, or in rare cases politics. There is very little place for any musical innovation, and electronic effects and samples have taken the place of guitar solos and the like in 90% of the genre's bands.

are you talking about the devil wears prada? if thats the case their riffs are chuggy but actually do have a progression to them/nice flow, and they usually have something interesting or out of the ordinary going on. 75% of lyrics in any genre of music fucking suck and i realize their vocalist isnt that good either.

not saying the band are good or anything but they really never did anything to be hated on
 
we get it you don't like Christians. now stfu you cockmaster. just cause a band is christian doesn't make them bad.

i.e. Horde, War of Ages, Norma Jean, Holy Blood, Slechtvalk, With Blood Comes Cleansing, Antestor, Becoming the Archetype, August Burns Red, Mortal Treason.

are all christian bands and they are all at least decent if not good to very good. I'm sure V5 can provide some even better examples.

you can be stupid and not listen to a band just cause they are christian, that is your loss. :Puke:

No...because it's the only "genre" with a agenda

plus I prefer early metalcore bands who wanted to go into a NWOSDM influences..like If Hope Dies, Beyond the Embrace, 3 inches of Blood
 
A bastardized genre of music in which the distorted guitars and agressive vocals of hardcore and heavy metal are dumbed down musically and then packaged to be marketable to angst-ridden teens. The name is derived from the "-core" system often used to name metal and punk varients such as hardcore, metalcore and emocore, and is so named because it targets your standard mall-going teens rather than real music enthusiasts, who nearly unanimously dismiss it as garbage. It can be characterized by chugging riffs based around basic (and often no) progression, and angsty yelled or rapped vocals. The lyrical content often complains about the unfairness of teenage situation, parents, school, or in rare cases politics. There is very little place for any musical innovation, and electronic effects and samples have taken the place of guitar solos and the like in 90% of the genre's bands.

You can go to prison for plagiarizing :) you could have at least copied something intelligible, so you could actually look smart before getting fucked over.
I've said it a thousand times and I'll say it again...most people don't dig deep enough into metalcore to find the good stuff, so they just end up judging a genre with good music based on a few commercial successes.
You're entitled to your own opinion, surely, but I agree with Gold that The Agonist are just another shitty and generic band, trying way too hard to be brutal.