Mic/Setup for mid-heavy agressive guitar tones (early Iron Maiden, Accept - Breaker)

[EETFUK]

Hey folks,

I've been trying to record miced guitars for the first time. I used:

Marshall '78 JMP 100W (preamp gain maxed, master half way, tone controls untouched)
Diezel V30 4x12 Cabinet
SM57

I put the mic 90 degree (mostly) on the edge of the speaker, distance between 0 to 3 inches. For my taste the tone is way to "clear" and modern with a lot of highs. In my opinion it lacks dynamics and honky midrange as well as some cab rumble/breathing.

What I want is a oldschool, agressive tone lilke for instance on Accept's "Breaker" record (listen to Accept - Feelings, Accept - Son Of A Bitch)

[ame]http://youtube.com/watch?v=5mWunzon3x4[/ame]

Any ideas of how to achieve this? I will exchange the Diezel cab with a Greenback cab and put a 808 in front of the amp but for me I think the typical SM57 tone is simply not what I am looking for... What mics did they use to record guitars back then? Maybe they worked with phase cancelation?

I'll post a sample, as soon as I can try with the Greenback cab...

best regards
Alex

 

[Mister Torture]

Go to Gearslutz and search all the posts you can from Michael Wagener.
I know there were a lot of topics about his projects there.

 

[Paulie!]

What mics do you have available?

 

[RevoltStudios]

You only need one thing to get that exact tone easily...ADA MP1. Done. Dead serious.

 

[Sloan]

I would use a sm57 on a marshall size cab with greenbacks or gt75s. Mic near seam where the dustcamp meets the cone. Keep the bass low.

 

[mickrich]

I recently did an album where the band were looking for this kind of sound.
We used Gibson LP into ts808 and DSL100 green channel on crunch mode left and jcm800 right into Marshall 1960 with v30s mic'd with Sennheiser E906.
We tried loads of different heads, cabs, mics but this sounded best. The E906 gave us loads of mids that sat well in the mix.
Here is one of the songs
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2133088/DEDEL_FINAL.mp3