Misanthropy/Pessimism
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That also, but AC/DC mostly applies to the "Rocker" kids. In fact, I bet a lot of those kids who shop at hot topic don't even listen to the band, they just buy and go, "I hope the other kids at school will notice my awesome shirt dude!!"
But then they call themselves antisocial like its cool.
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I consider myself more of a lonely wolf, rather than a misanthrope. I enjoy being alone most of the time, even though I have a pretty wide circle of true friends and love spending time with them.
I generally have no issues functioning in social settings, etc, and I don't have a problem, if not liking people, then at least managing to relate with them sufficiently to have a proper dialogue if that is what the social protocol calls for. If anything, I'd say people have a harder time liking me than the other way around. My esoteric hobbies, politically incorrect opinions and cynic outlook on life is something a lot of people find hard to swallow.
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people who fit into these established categories are just funny, i get more irritated by people who are clichéd but aren't quite so obvious about it - i.e. most of the people i meet. my entire personality can be fundamentally defined as an opposition to such cliché, absolutely every facet of it from my tastes to my general demeanor i think.
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So basically, everyone on these boards claim to be a misanthrope or borderline, except ~Derek~. Shocker. 
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Personally, I find this whole attitude of being oneself at all costs just as pretentious as, if not more pretentious than, someone's choosing to, for instance, dress in a way that can be regarded as clichéd or something along those lines. As if there's some way of looking that just signifies the will to be oneself, whereas this other stuff just signifies the will to conform to some stereotype. Give me a break. If somebody looks some way because they genuinely like that look, then whether or not that look fits under some preconceived category is basically a non-issue as far as I'm concerned. What manner of dressing, pray tell, does not signify one's social group/background? People who dress in conformity with some kind of subculture face these sorts of superficial criticisms so often I suspect only because subcultural norms have a particular salience that "normal", "non-pretentious" norms don't have because it's in the very nature of things that are regarded as less-than-normal to be particularly salient in this way.
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So basically, everyone on these boards claim to be a misanthrope or borderline, except ~Derek~. Shocker.
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So basically, everyone on these boards claim to be a misanthrope or borderline, except ~Derek~. Shocker.
wat
I didn't, and I recall a few others not as well.
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if you think in a non-clichéd way it follows that you will have non-cliched preferences/tastes and so will 'genuinely like' a look that is also likely to be unusual. clothes often can accurately indicate a clichéd or non-clichéd personality.
in fact they can indicate a will to be clichéd or non-clichéd as well, i don't know wtf you're going on about honestly. just because 'trying to be oneself/different' necessarily fails miserably due to its self-contradictory nature doesn't mean the attempt can't be reflected in a person's clothing
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I agree with this. I wasn't implying an actual animosity towards individuals part of sub-cultures. I just feel a general dislike towards an "obsession with appearance" mentality.
In response to the original topic:
I'm definitely a misanthrope and an incurable cynic. In my experience what can go wrong, will. Especially if other people are involved. Generally, people are either stupid or casually sadistic, or worse, both. I've kind of lost faith in humanity, and the state of the world economy certainly isn't helping. I don't try and avoid over people, but I do try and ignore politics, populated areas where the idiocy is overwhelming, and the news in general. The only way I can keep up with modern affairs without feeling depressed is to watch quiz shows like Have I Got News For You or Mock The Week, which isn't terribly reliable, but at least everyone on there is at least as cynical as I am.
In response to the above statement: I believe in being yourself, just so long as you don't shove it in other peoples faces or put ridiculous amounts of effort into it, which is almost as despicable as people who want to be someone else or a different race or whatever.
I'm definitely a misanthrope and an incurable cynic. In my experience what can go wrong, will. Especially if other people are involved. Generally, people are either stupid or casually sadistic, or worse, both. I've kind of lost faith in humanity, and the state of the world economy certainly isn't helping. I don't try and avoid over people, but I do try and ignore politics, populated areas where the idiocy is overwhelming, and the news in general. The only way I can keep up with modern affairs without feeling depressed is to watch quiz shows like Have I Got News For You or Mock The Week, which isn't terribly reliable, but at least everyone on there is at least as cynical as I am.
In response to the above statement: I believe in being yourself, just so long as you don't shove it in other peoples faces or put ridiculous amounts of effort into it, which is almost as despicable as people who want to be someone else or a different race or whatever.
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I was attacking the idea that certain ways of looking are by themselves reliable indicators of "clichéd ways of thought". The will to be oneself does not attach to any particular look, i.e. "unusual" looks. I also find the idea of being oneself in the sense of trying to avoid looking or seeming clichéd in any way just as obnoxious as looking some way in order to conform to some particular type. Often the outward manifestation of being oneself can be construed as conforming to some sort of cliché. I'm not interested purely in how people look but rather their underlying motivation and can't really see any interesting connection between the former and the latter. Also, what is 'unusual' supposed to mean in this context? Unless you dress in fucking dinosaur costumes or something you're not all that unusual.
I don't think I ever claimed that the attempt to be oneself couldn't be reflected in how somebody looks. I don't buy the idea that there's any interesting connection between being oneself and looking a certain way. There's no interesting connection between being oneself and being unusual. If, for example, I agree with the main tenets of some popular ideology am I not being myself? You can't have evidence one way or another until you look at my motivations. Outward manifestations are not reliable evidence for this sort of thing.
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ok i agree in that case. look isn't really reliable as an indicator for anything at all, i mean i sometimes walk about unshaven in a man utd top and tracksuit bottoms haha, people probably think i work at mcdonalds and start fights in parks. a lot of the most common looking people in the world are i suspect 'being themselves', if 'being oneself' means a synthesis between thought and action (i don't think it can make sense any other way applied in this context).
to tie this back in with the thread and my original post, i don't value the quality of 'being oneself' so much as i value the quality of being unusual. i don't care how authentic you are if you're boring the shit out of me.
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You are the worst member of this forum. I'm amazed that you've been here since 2006 and not been banned. Stop posting, not just because you are unnecessary in this thread and every other thread on this entire site, but also because a misanthrope would not be here online spreading his message on a social forum.
Not true. It is about how to deliver the deep content. Also when in a large group it not always a good idea to express the deepest of subjects.
I am able to connect with a majority of people I talk to. I do not think that I am always the best at it but I am good in terms of being social. This has, however, shown to be how, as V5 said, most people are generic and will only be "cool" or interesting during their high school lives.
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