Most controversial Sneap forum thread evar!

[MT01]

Am I the only one here who doesn't get all the fuss over the Clayman sound?

I don't claim to to be a sound engineering expert, but I do know what sounds good and what doesn't and I do have a £3K hifi to listen to material through, but I can't find anything in Clayman that makes me go "wow!". Don't get me wrong, it's good, but I can't find the wow.

Am I doing something wrong?


*Ducks for cover*

 

[Metaltastic]

Meh, I really don't like the guitar sound for what it is, but it works ridiculously well in the mix, and overall everything just has such an incredible low end punch and yet definition, so that's really what makes it for me!

 

[Skinny Viking]

I actually liked the drum sound on "Colony" better myself, but the guitars on "Clayman" really cut through with better definition

just my thought on it

 

[Jaymz]

I don't like it at all either

 

[beyond dead]

its just super fat low end and is very organic sounding. you can tell there was alot of compression used on the 2 bus, and it just pumps and breathes in a super musical way I`m actually listening to it right now lol I just learned bullet ride after owning the cd for years hahaha

not your typical super clean modern metal production. but it is super tasty!!!!

 

[guitarded88]

I wouldn't say it's the be all and end all of guitar tones that all guitarists should aspire to.

It's one of those things that was groundbreaking at the time... served it's purpose perfectly for the sound they were going for... and is still awesome by today's standards so many years later.

 

[Genius Gone Insane]

Am I the only one here who doesn't get all the fuss over the Clayman sound?

I don't claim to to be a sound engineering expert, but I do know what sounds good and what doesn't and I do have a £3K hifi to listen to material through, but I can't find anything in Clayman that makes me go "wow!". Don't get me wrong, it's good, but I can't find the wow.

Am I doing something wrong?


*Ducks for cover*

When did you start listening to Metal? Clayman and Nevermore's DHIADW came out within a year of each other are always referred to here because each had a groundbreaking new sound.

My guess is that if you don't think these two records sound great then you probably weren't listening to metal 10 years ago.

edit:

I wouldn't say it's the be all and end all of guitar tones that all guitarists should aspire to.

It's one of those things that was groundbreaking at the time... served it's purpose perfectly for the sound they were going for... and is still awesome by today's standards so many years later.

+1 You beat me to it!

 

[abyssofdreams]

its just super fat low end and is very organic sounding. you can tell there was alot of compression used on the 2 bus, and it just pumps and breathes in a super musical way I`m actually listening to it right now lol I just learned bullet ride after owning the cd for years hahaha

not your typical super clean modern metal production. but it is super tasty!!!!

everything +1

and that is exactly why it is so great. really, couldn't have said it better.

 

[slashvanyoung]

You say this is controversial?

Pfft... I say, it's at least better than the darn Black Album.

 

[MT01]

When did you start listening to Metal? Clayman and Nevermore's DHIADW came out within a year of each other are always referred to here because each had a groundbreaking new sound.

My guess is that if you don't think these two records sound great then you probably weren't listening to metal 10 years ago.

edit:



+1 You beat me to it!

Got into metal in 1992 with the "Black" album, "Contdown to Extinction" and "Use Your Illusion".

 

[Jaymz]

My guess is that if you don't think these two records sound great then you probably weren't listening to metal 10 years ago.

Dead Heart does...and ive been listening to metal for more than 10 years...

 

[MetalJonesy]

ive been listening to metal for years too, and been doin audio eng for 8, and i still dont get the fuss over clayman!! its good, dont get me wrong, but i dont understand why it gets all this hype:-/

 

[Genius Gone Insane]

Name some albums that came out prior and had the same amount of aggression and clarity.

 

[Jaymz]

Thats the whole matter of opinion though isnt it

 

[Chryst Krispies]

This is FAR from controversial.

 

[Genius Gone Insane]

Can't have controversy without opinions!!! haha

 

[slashvanyoung]

Name some albums that came out prior and had the same amount of aggression and clarity.

Not necessarily the same amount of both, but comparable IMO:

- Machine Head's "Burn My Eyes" and "The More Things Change"

- Fear Factory's "Demanufacture" and "Obsolete"

- Sepultura's "Chaos A.D."

- Slipknot "Slipknot" (yeah, very much debatable)

- Pantera's "Far Beyond Driven" (maybe adding Vulgar and Trendkill, too)

to name a few...

Edit: Testament's "Low", "Demonic" and "The Gathering", too.

 

[MT01]

Not necessarily the same amount of both, but comparable IMO:

- Machine Head's "Burn My Eyes" and "The More Things Change"

- Fear Factory's "Demanufacture" and "Obsolete"

- Pantera's "Far Beyond Driven" (maybe adding Vulgar and Trendkill, too)

Touché

 

[Fox Mulder]

Having been a metalhead since the age of 8, I've never really liked Inflames or ANY of their productions. Perception!

Cheers!

 

[abyssofdreams]

Clayman doesn't stand out for a single element but for the combination of extremes and many, many factors such as the aformentioned punchy low end, the pumping 2bus, the organic musicality, the dual-mic technique for guitars... it is far from perfect (OHs too grating, leads and vox get lost at times and so on...) but the way it is, it is unique and in a way NO OTHER ALBUM comes close. For me, this album is magical in terms of production, I dare to say not even Fredman could recreate that sound himself. It seems to be a one-hit-wonder. I reckon you might dislike the endresult though I find the thought quite hilarious...