Most controversial Sneap forum thread evar!

[AllanD]

Same here... and actually i prefer Andy's and Colin's productions from those days than the more recent ones.

+ as some others mentioned :

-Terry Date with Pantera's Vulgar Display of Power & The Great Southern Trendkill (i don't like the production on Far Beyond Driven that much)
+Deftones' Around the Fur & The White Pony

-Sepultura's chaos AD

-Ross Robinson with Sepultura's Roots & Slipknot's s/t album

Really? I think that's one of the thinnest albums I've heard in my life!

 

[Ermz]

Likewise, it sounds terrible on every playback system I've used. Trendkill isn't much better; the grainy guitars kill the midrange.

 

[Djabthrash]

Really? I think that's one of the thinnest albums I've heard in my life!

Vulgar Display of Power ?

 

[Djabthrash]

Likewise, it sounds terrible on every playback system I've used. Trendkill isn't much better; the grainy guitars kill the midrange.

I love the grainy guitars They're just a tad too scooped on this record for my tastes though...
I'm currently trying a guitar sound with the same kind of vibe (sharp, grainy, ...), but less scooped, thicker, less gainy. I'll post samples soon.

 

[GeertSamuel]

Clayman is song wise for the best In Flames album. Overall not a really a fan of that In Flames kinda sound. But Clayman was sound really good tho.
It's not that good for me to use as a mixing reference.

I think if it comes to rawness for me nothing beats Slipknot - IOWA by Ross Robinson.

 

[ahjteam]

I think if it comes to rawness for me nothing beats Slipknot - IOWA by Ross Robinson.

Btw, I just noticed that the drums on Vol.3 are clipping like hell for example in "The Blister Exists", you can clearly hear this if you compare to the previous slipknot songs like "(Sic)"

 

[LydonB]

edit: nm

 

[AllanD]

Vulgar Display of Power ?

Yep. My ears cringe every time I listen to the album, but I like the songs on it.

 

[ahjteam]

Yep. My ears cringe every time I listen to the album, but I like the songs on it.

I guess you must be mixing it up with Cowboys from Hell which is really thin sounding album compared to Vulgar Display of Power?

 

[John_C]

Seriously, is it just me or is the bass wooly and undefined on clayman.
My room isn't the best for bass, but i am comparing this other mixes and it just sounds like a constant ear sucking rumble

 

[beyond dead]

I think the bass is very defined and this album has one of the fattest drum sounds. I find it has a bit of a spike in the low end, which may sound muddy on certain playback systems that boost that spectrum.

 

[Ermz]

Yep, on poor systems or poor acoustic environments the low-end on clayman sounds like a constant drone of mud. If nothing else then listen to it on a pair of good cans that go down to 30hz well.

 

[John_C]

mmm

i'm slightly unsure about the quality of a mix designed for commercial general public release that sounds muddy on anything other than high end equipment in good acoustic environments.

Ofc it has artistic and technical merit, but surely not the cleverest thing to do, overall

 

[Charles J]

mmm

i'm slightly unsure about the quality of a mix designed for commercial general public release that sounds muddy on anything other than high end equipment in good acoustic environments.

Ofc it has artistic and technical merit, but surely not the cleverest thing to do, overall

very good point.... i don't see the use if it only sounds good in a properly treated studio, that's dumb.

there are some amazing productions that sound equally as amazing on every playback source i listen thru.