Music downloading is it good or bad?

[razoredge]

Music follows the generation/age it was popular with, it will stick to those people and many will always respond to it. Later a smaller percentage of a later generation will also connect with it. Pop music having a larger appreaciation percentage will fade away slower than obscure music. For example there are still alot of domestic types that still get into that disco stuff from the 70's, same with the 80's electro keyboard layden stuff, same with the grunge/post grunge stuff, same with the 80's pop metal stuff, 70's rock, nothing changes

then there are small resurgances for example my age group, babyboomers upon maturity found merit in old jazz standards, big band jazz and even jazz itself which brought about careers like Harry Connick Jr or redirected careers like Brian Setzer, Natalie Cole or revived people like Tony Bennet.

Since grunge and even further back to some pop metal bands you could see groups digging back to earlier rock. Many soundtracks from 90's movies were loaded with the sounds of the late 60's early 70's.

Kids may eventually get ahold of their parents music and find merit in it when they once were determined to hate it forever, or upon maturity finally make the connection just because it was always somewhere in the background while they were growing up.

I really dont think any of this will change. Only that as more decades pass by the older it is the more it will fade.

 

[Thoth-Amon]

Do you truly believe this or do you think there are other factors involved as well? Other factors such as the lack of quality music being promoted and the similarities between all the major POP artists.

For my mind these are equally as large contributors to the decline in the music industry.

People out there still want to buy music. Take a look at the recent success of Susan Boyle. I know this is not the type of music most of us would listen to, but in the space of little more than a month she has sold 5 million copies worldwide. A lot of this is her target audience, older folk. The older generations still prefer to have the physical album in their hands. Another portion of her success is she can actually sing, unlike the average autotuned Joanne on the street.

For my mind, show me someone who is worth buying and people will.

Honestly I really don't think it has to do with any drop in quality of music. Lots of terrible music has sold millions. Artists like Bocelli or Boyle still sell tons because old people don't know how to download. They are so accustomed to buying the product whereas people these days just point and click a couple of times and voila! new music.

 

[Badbird]

Honestly I really don't think it has to do with any drop in quality of music. Lots of terrible music has sold millions. Artists like Bocelli or Boyle still sell tons because old people don't know how to download. They are so accustomed to buying the product whereas people these days just point and click a couple of times and voila! new music.

I agree with you on that old people buy albums because they can't downloadYou are also right about terrible music has sold millions and I can make a list for it which will be a long one.What do you think about future metalheads buying cds or vinyl?

 

[Thoth-Amon]

I agree with you on that old people buy albums because they can't downloadYou are also right about terrible music has sold millions and I can make a list for it which will be a long one.What do you think about future metalheads buying cds or vinyl?

I imagine it will persist for a while. There seems to be some segment of metal fans who actively collect these things.

 

[Badbird]

I have heard that metalheads buy cds the most.

 

[razoredge]

Old people cant download... interesting

like I said little changes

 

[hexwind]

I don't think old people are unable to download.. there is no science behind that, just read and click.

Hating your parents music ,for some people, is part of proving that you don't share their stuff and that you have your own choice (part of your personality) even if they don't realize it.

 

[razoredge]

Ah, but parents realize much more than their children can possibly conceive... one of which is their children dont want anything to do with anything of theirs.... except the money by which to prove they are their "own person"

again, nothing really changes

 

[monoxide_child]

at the end of the day, the issue of whether or not the downloads replacing CDs actually affects the individual artists is something that really comes down to how the individual artist spends his/her money

if you decide to live in cheap rent apt instead of mansion
if you decide to drive a kia instead of caddilac
if you decide to eat tuna instead of caviar

then just getting your effin name on the dam contract will actually pay your bills

however, some people get stupid with their money
MC Hammer for example, actually admited that he paid for 100 cars and that were all caddilacs, who the hell's gonna have any money left after that?

 

[Badbird]

Are the mom and pop stores dying because of downloading?You don't see a lot of them nowadays.

 

[monoxide_child]

the CD/vinyl record stores are dying because of downloading. You don't see a lot of them nowadays.

fixed

 

[Badbird]

fixed

It seems like you can't find them in a lot of places which is sad.

 

[hexwind]

Ah, but parents realize much more than their children can possibly conceive... one of which is their children dont want anything to do with anything of theirs.... except the money by which to prove they are their "own person"

again, nothing really changes

Does it hurt? Or you think when you are able to comprehend such attitude, then it won't bother you that much?
I mean, the relationship between two individuals is always better when they share the least of things, but in the case of a parent-Child relationship, is it different?

at the end of the day, the issue of whether or not the downloads replacing CDs actually affects the individual artists is something that really comes down to how the individual artist spends his/her money

if you decide to live in cheap rent apt instead of mansion
if you decide to drive a kia instead of caddilac
if you decide to eat tuna instead of caviar

then just getting your effin name on the dam contract will actually pay your bills

however, some people get stupid with their money
MC Hammer for example, actually admited that he paid for 100 cars and that were all caddilacs, who the hell's gonna have any money left after that?

You can apply this on every person !
For me, if you get 5000€ per month and you spend 4500€ you are NOT rich, coz i think that a rich person is the one who has money more than what they need, but those people have a lot of needs, thus they spend more, they suffocate to cover their "needs" just like any person who gets 150€ per month and spend 140€ !

 

[Blowtus]

My views fall pretty closely in line with this article... music returning to a somewhat more 'pure' base of artistic expression, with less homogeneity amongst the mainstream, sounds good to me...

http://www.curatormagazine.com/lars...-music-industry-and-the-road-to-distributism/

 

[Badbird]

Now the true music fans will buy the music and posers will go back to the days where you had to buy the single.
That sounds good to me.

 

[razoredge]

"Posers"... blah, more catagorization that is as narrow minded as those who only care about the hit music of such and such a band. They are not "posers" they are simply responding to what appeals to their taste.

I have a buddy that has hundreds of CD's he bought just for 1 or 2 songs tops that he feels are worth listening too. That is his taste, hes not into the heavy, deep and intense shit I am... I can accept that without pinning a label on him. He knows his music too, another thing he can do is load up and program a CD player and keep people on their feet, happy and partying for hours. Sorry... thats not a "poser".

 

[Badbird]

"Posers"... blah, more catagorization that is as narrow minded as those who only care about the hit music of such and such a band. They are not "posers" they are simply responding to what appeals to their taste.

I have a buddy that has hundreds of CD's he bought just for 1 or 2 songs tops that he feels are worth listening too. That is his taste, hes not into the heavy, deep and intense shit I am... I can accept that without pinning a label on him. He knows his music too, another thing he can do is load up and program a CD player and keep people on their feet, happy and partying for hours. Sorry... thats not a "poser".

What would you say is a poser?

 

[razoredge]

Does it hurt? Or you think when you are able to comprehend such attitude, then it won't bother you that much?
I mean, the relationship between two individuals is always better when they share the least of things, but in the case of a parent-Child relationship, is it different?

not following your english here...
Does it hurt ? Dont know why your asking me this, nothing hurts me... Does it hurt ? Maybe the wallet that pays for all the "Im a individual" tantrums of a teenager.

"Im a individual" .... No shit Sherlock... sadly sharing my DNA

oh shit did I just point out something that was shared

people that know who they are and are comfortable with it dont have such an attitude or any comprehension challenges, during youth there is more comprehension challenges than there is reality... see issue # 1, money funding for better comprehension

"Relationship of two people is always better when they share the least of things" OK Ill explain this to my life long friends who have nothing in common nor shared anything with me. I'll also look up all my past girlfriends who are past because we shared nothing in common and explain to them that we should really still be together because we shared nothing. Maybe it will be a really lucky week...

Parent/child relationship ? In honest truth by 17 there is a hidden sound going off in every parents head that says I cant wait till this little PITA is gone from my life(and wallet) However the inate nutureing and protection instinct does not allow this... plus there is always the fact that such and such a child left to their own devices will again be in the back pocket to get bailed out of their fool hardy adventures.

So we sit and grin and bare it, knowing fully well that your own children will be our revenge. Why do you think grandparents love thier grandchildren so much ? "Its your turn now know it alls"....

**dramitized for effect, but oh, so sad but true

:Smokin:

 

[razoredge]

What would you say is a poser?

I dont catagorize people in that fashion but lets look at a few possibilities

the kid in the moshpit, hes not there to hear and watch the band, he has alternative motives, clearly posing as a "fan"

any band wagon rider such as one who hangs out at metal forums and embraces use of the term poser... lives to hate popular bands because its the statis quo of the group they are trying to fit in with.... rather than being their own person... OMG did I ?... No I didnt

playing air guitar is purely being a poser... but hey I can play better air guitar than I can on the fretboard... god damn me, such a poser, how dare I even pick up the guitar when I cant play like Yngwie... such a poser... then if thats not bad enough I dont play only metal, lord have mercy may the big drum stick of hell crash down upon my head and remove me from such a fate

pretending your a real stud when truth is you have a little twinker and 3 minute staying power... that might be a poser

** I do have way to much fun

 

[Badbird]

This isn't about parents and their chilldren.Let go back on topic about downloading.